Winchester 38 special +p+ ranger black talon ammunition

This is a discussion on Winchester 38 special +p+ ranger black talon ammunition within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; If you like Black Talon, you'll love Ranger T. Same bullet, less the black (but same reverse taper to produce "talons") and in a new ...

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    If you like Black Talon, you'll love Ranger T. Same bullet, less the black (but same reverse taper to produce "talons") and in a new design that doesn't clog with clothing. It's more effective against clothed targets, period.

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    thanks for all the info guys i think im going to try the speer 135 gr +p gold dot since a couple people have recomended it. id just like to say this is the best forum ever! been on a few and this is always the one i look at first because the people are so friendly

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    I bought a box of federals' personal defense ammo in .38 special
    129 gr. JHP. That should do the trick...
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    I think you will be very happy with the Speer 135gr GDHP Short Barrel ammo. I carry it in my 642, my wife carries it in her 637 and my daughter carries it in her Detective Special. We have tried several other brands and have foud the Speer Short barrel ammo to be very accurate, fast and clean. There is no industry standard for +P+ ammo if I remember correctly, so I would stay away from it. Good shooting and God Bless.
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    I believe the Speer Gold Dot 135s are the best in short barreled revolvers. And I've tried them all as my duty gun for many years was a 2 1/2 inch model 19 Smith. Everything from the .357mag Super Vels to the +P+ Treasury Loads. The only other round I liked was the 158grn Winchester FBI Load. With the mags it was "Great Balls of Fire" and with the 110 grn loads it was bad Juju on penitration.

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    Personaly i wouldnt stoke my smokepole with blacktalon , nor would i carry oriental talon , or mexican talon ect.... there was an issue about this regarding this cal back when it came out
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