Best SD Round for .357 magnum and .45 ACP?

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    Question Best SD Round for .357 magnum and .45 ACP?

    As a new member, I am looking forward to getting some great feedback regarding some self-defense ammunition.

    I carry either a S&W Model 640 (2+1/8 inch barrel) in .357 magnum and a Springfield Armory 1911-A1, depending on the weather and what I'm wearing.

    My question is simple: what do members of this forum consider the very best self-defense round in both .357 magnum and .45 ACP?
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    Can't say it is the best, but my Springfield runs Remington Golden Sabers without a hitch. I am confident with those, in 230 gr., as my carry round. (That is .45, of course.)
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    IMHO,

    1911-A1 45acp=Speer Gold Dot .45 200gr+p

    S&W 640 (2&1/8 inch) .357Mag=Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel 357Mag 135gr
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    Speer Gold Dot .38Special 125gr+p
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    Buffalo Bore. Google it.

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    There isn't a best. If there was we would all know it. Manufactorers would duplicate it and there would be some fairly close copies, so there still wouldn't be a best.
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    Here you go... Not in order of performance. Any of these would be a good choice.

    .357

    Speer Gold Dot 135gr +P (53921), specially designed for snubnose guns

    Here's a techincal link to a performance chart for the Gold Dot.

    LE: Ballistics Detail


    .45

    Barnes XPB/TAC-XP 185gr HP loaded by: Cor-Bon (DPX45185) or Taurus (TCB45ACP185HP)

    Winchester Ranger-T 230gr JHP (RA45T)

    Winchester Ranger-T 230gr JHP +P (RA45TP)

    Federal Tactical 230gr JHP (LE45T1)

    Federal HST 230gr +P JHP (P45HST1)

    Federal HST 230gr JHP (P45HST2)

    Speer Gold Dot 230 gr JHP (23966)
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    Here's a link to results of the Marshall & Sanow study. It allows you to select your caliber and preferred bullet weights to see how well it has performed in actual shootings. Keep in mind that it needs to cycle reliably (referring to your 1911) above all else. In any case, it says the best load for .357 magnum is Federal 125 gr JHP, and for .45 ACP it says Federal 230 gr HS ammo.

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    Question

    Stevew: The question wasn't "what is the best" but what members of this forum consider to be the best. In other words: what SD round do you depend your life with?
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    I like 125 gr. Black Hills just because of the cool box.
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    You'll get many different answers for this question. So, I'll offer my opinion.

    For .357 Magnum - Corbon DPX 125gr Hollow Point:
    Ammunition To Go : 20rds - 357 Mag Corbon DPX 125gr. HP Ammo [DPX357125/20] - $29.95

    For .45 ACP - Corbon DPX 185gr Hollow Point:
    Ammunition To Go : 20rds - 45 ACP Corbon DPX 185gr. +P HP Ammo [DPX45185/20] - $32.49

    or

    Federal Premium Tactical HST 230gr:
    Tactical Defense Solutions LLC: FEDERAL PREMIUM TACTICAL HST 230grn 45ACP (P45HST2) - 50 ROUNDS in PrestoMart
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    First off, welcome to the board.

    Everyone has their personal favorites. I shoot a 4" Colt Python and use either Hornady 125 gr Critical Defense in it or Buffalo Bore 125 gr High Velocity Jacketed Hollowpoint. I carry two speed loaders in addition to my chambered Hornady CD rounds. One speed loader has more Hornady's and the other has the Buffalo Bore loads. At 1700 fps (802 ft-lbs), I have the BB rounds for a serious situation where the measily Hornady's 1500 fps (624 ft-lbs) just won't do the trick. I'm hoping to never meet that guy personally though.

    For my Kimber and Glock 45 ACP, I use either Hornady 230 gr +P TAP rounds or Powr-Ball 165 gr +P rounds. Both feed reliably and although I've never shot a living soft target with either, I'm pretty sure either would work just fine. Since I carry two spare mags, I have plenty of rounds/kinetic energy for most any two legged confrontation.

    Find out what feeds best in your particular firearms, what has the most controlable recoil and muzzle flash for you, and what rounds shoot closest to point of aim for your particular pistols. Those are your best defensive rounds.
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    I use both the Corbon DPX 125 gr. .357 magnums rounds and the venerable Federal 125 gr. JSP in my Smith and Colt .357 magnums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munch View Post
    Here you go... Not in order of performance. Any of these would be a good choice.

    .357

    Speer Gold Dot 135gr +P (53921), specially designed for snubnose guns

    Here's a techincal link to a performance chart for the Gold Dot.

    LE: Ballistics Detail

    .45

    Barnes XPB/TAC-XP 185gr HP loaded by: Cor-Bon (DPX45185) or Taurus (TCB45ACP185HP)

    Winchester Ranger-T 230gr JHP (RA45T)

    Winchester Ranger-T 230gr JHP +P (RA45TP)

    Federal Tactical 230gr JHP (LE45T1)

    Federal HST 230gr +P JHP (P45HST1)

    Federal HST 230gr JHP (P45HST2)

    Speer Gold Dot 230 gr JHP (23966)
    +1 Good suggestions.

    I would also add the .357 magnum Speer Short barrel round. Just 100fps or so over the same thing in .38 Special.

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    I use golden sabres in my 3" .357, when I hike I load it with 180gr buffalo bore rounds, they are mean and they are a handful!
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    I have used the Federal Hi-Shok 125-grain full-pressure ammo in most of my 4" .357 sixguns, and my SP101s have often been loaded with the same, though now that I generally carry only the snubbier fiveguns, have started buying Winchester Silvertips, due to better recent availability, better POA/POI with the fixed sights, and a bit less recoil than the hotter 125s. I recently bought a 3-1/16" SP101, and have yet to decide on a load for it.

    .45? There are so many good ones. I used 230-grain Hydra-Shok in my .45 duty and carry pistols from 1991 to 2002. When I last needed to replenish, I bought some 230-grain Golden Saber due to availability issues, but have not yet run it through my 1911 to verify function. I still have a very few Hydra-Shoks for the rare times I tote a 1911; I usually CC the same .40 SIGs I use at work.

    I always avoid the newly-introduced and the exotic ammo. That which is long-proven, preferably by police agencies who have used it to shoot real live people, is most comforting to me.

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