Recommend Ammo, PLEASE !!!!

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    The .45 auto FMJ ammo at walmart is good range ammo.

    For HD, the list above (DPX, HST, Ranger, et al) are all good choices; pick one (really, they're all about equal) that you like, put several magazines through your pistol to make sure it likes it...if it does, you're set; if it doesn't, try the next round and repeat. Personally, my 1911 really likes the classic HydraShok design, so that's what I go with.

    If all you have access to is FMJ, it will work for protection...but with a few serious drawbacks. First, it can overpenetrate your target, carrying enough energy to be dangerous downrange. Second, a .45 FMJ does not, contrary to popular belief, make a .45" hole; the round nose design allows tissue to stretch around it, usually causing a permanent wound channel less than .35" and also tending to allow the skin and fatty layers to seal behind it slowing or preventing bleed out.


    So--FMJ for the range, and quality JHP that works in your pistol for defense.
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    ...man fights with his mind; the weapons are incidental.--Jeff Cooper


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    I use the remington umc bulk (yellow box) for the range and they shoot well in my Springfield 1911.

    For Hollow points I use Golden Sabers 230 gr.

    Like others have mentioned, some people recommend buying a "trial" box of HP. If your 1911 feeds the 1 box with no problems then that's the round you should use for self defense. Some 1911s are picky about what kind of hollow points they use, since the 1911 was originally designed for ball ammo. Most common 1911 brands will run hollow points with no problems.

    I would recommend running at least 200 rounds of FMJ ammo first to "break it in"

    If you don't mind me asking...what kind of 1911 are you getting?

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    I like to run the Federal American Eagle and Winchester White Box at the range, both 230gr ball. I will say that the Blazer Brass has been fairly consistent for me...as in, consistently shoots low and to the right out of both my 1911 and my friend's SIG P245. Maybe we had a bad batch, bu it's something to look out for with ANY brand. Your gun might not like it for whatever reason. As far as PD loads, I like the Speer Gold Dot 230 gr HP short barrel load, that stuff is crazy accurate in my gun. I also think the basic WWB personal protection loads are worth a look too. They are much cheaper so verifying function won't be nearly so expensive, and from what I understand expansion is still very good with it.

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    Ammunition For The Self-Defense Firearm

    The above is a very good article on ammo, one that I think everyone should read. It is not Sanow , but it is still a good condensed read on ammo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mauser1959 View Post
    Ammunition For The Self-Defense Firearm

    The above is a very good article on ammo, one that I think everyone should read. It is not Sanow , but it is still a good condensed read on ammo.
    With all due respect, that article is:

    1) Terribly out of date.

    2) Full of inaccuracies even when it was current.

    3) Something to be avoided.


    For a more modern read on SD ammo--try this: Best Choices for Self Defense Ammo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuda66 View Post
    With all due respect, that article is:

    1) Terribly out of date.

    2) Full of inaccuracies even when it was current.

    3) Something to be avoided.


    For a more modern read on SD ammo--try this: Best Choices for Self Defense Ammo
    Perhaps , I still think that it has a lot of good information. However I do have in front of me Stopping Power by Marshall and Sanow, which is the manual that I refer to on ballistic results. Also by the same authors is Street Stoppers, both of the two gentlemen are rated as some of the top in the USA.

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    for plinking i shoot whatever as long as its fmj but for defense ammo i only carry Extreme Shock EPR

    Extreme Shock - The World's Most Advanced Ammunition

    Its expensive, but after doing my own comparisons between it and other top brand defense ammo, its unbelievable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielf View Post
    for plinking i shoot whatever as long as its fmj but for defense ammo i only carry Extreme Shock EPR

    Extreme Shock - The World's Most Advanced Ammunition

    Its expensive, but after doing my own comparisons between it and other top brand defense ammo, its unbelievable.


    Here we go again...
    There are no dangerous weapons; there are only dangerous men.--RAH

    ...man fights with his mind; the weapons are incidental.--Jeff Cooper


    There is a reason they try and make small bullets act like big bullets--Glockmann10mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielf View Post
    for plinking i shoot whatever as long as its fmj but for defense ammo i only carry Extreme Shock EPR

    Extreme Shock - The World's Most Advanced Ammunition

    Its expensive, but after doing my own comparisons between it and other top brand defense ammo, its unbelievable.



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    I only shoot factory FMJ in my pistols for practice, and Speer, Remington, Federal, CoreBon JHPs for SD.
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    Anny ammo that you can get localy at the gun store or wally land is fine for the range. For SD a good FMJ will do, don't realy need a HP round, remember that a .45 is a "big slow moving bullet" it was desind for its stoping power so a HP or other SD rounds are not a necessity
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    For range I use Federal American Eagle FMJ; for SD Corbon DPX.
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