38 Snub Ammo tests: Corbon vs Speer vs Remington

38 Snub Ammo Tests: Corbon vs Speer vs Remington

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    38 Snub Ammo tests: Corbon vs Speer vs Remington

    Hello. I was able to do some informal tests comparing the "old technology" 158-gr. LSWCHP +P to Corbon's 110-gr. DPX +P as well as Speer's 135-gr. GDHP +P.

    Accuracy testing was done at 10 yards. All firing was done with my usual "24/7 gun", a well-used S&W Model 642.


    The worst group shot was with Remington's 158-gr. LSWCHP +P. The fact that it was the worst could also be because it was first! Frankly, all three loads grouped very well and I believe that at this range they were all probably capable of much, much tighter groups than I shot.


    The best group of the day was fired with Speer's 135-gr. GDHP +P.

    Average velocities were based on 10 shots fired 10' from the chronograph screens. Here are the results:

    Corbon 110-gr. DPX +P: 1164 ft/sec

    Speer 135-gr. GDHP +P: 921 ft/sec

    Rem 158-gr. LSWCHP +P: 844 ft/sec

    Fired into super-saturated newsprint which had soaked for 24 hours and been drained 30 minutes before shooting, the following penetration depths were recorded. Each is the average penetration based on 5 shots.

    Corbon 110-gr. DPX +P: 8"

    Speer 135-gr. GDHP +P: 7 1/2"

    Remington 158-gr. LSWCHP +P: 8 1/2"


    All expanded consistently and there was very little difference in penetration depths shot-to-shot with each load.

    For those interested in a more detailed report, follow the link below:

    http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/3...mmo%20test.htm

    Best.


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    Camp, I tell ya those little snubs are just so easy to carry. I am thinking about making my 637 my always gun. Thanks for the report. I carry the 125grain Speers will get the 135's soon.
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    Thank you for the info, all the loads seemed to perform very well. Personally I use the Speer for my SP-101 but that's just personal preference.
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    Steve - thanks once more for some great info.

    As you note - expansion pretty good thru whole test range but have to say if I could get them, the Rem LSWHP's would appeal - most I guess because from days of old have always been into 158's!

    Just thought out of interest I'd compare ME figures - so we get based on your chrono results -

    Corbon 110-gr. DPX +P: 1164 ft/sec - 331 ft lbs ME

    Speer 135-gr. GDHP +P: 921 ft/sec - 254 ft lbs ME

    Rem 158-gr. LSWCHP +P: 844 ft/sec - 250 ft lbs ME

    Interesting the CorBon comes out so far ahead! That was what I usually stoked my SP-101 with.
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    Hello. Yes, it wouldn't bother me to carry any of these three.

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    10 yards??? i carry a s&w model 60 with hydro-shock +p+ as backup on duty, and as off duty/ 24/7. i hope i do not need to shoot anybody at 10 yards. i know that it will be closer than ten yards, point and shoot that is the real game. (been there and done that). my s&w groups good at point plank.

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    I reckon "arm's length" might be a more realistic distance for us private citizens. The attempt was to see if the load was acceptably accurate, ie: not wild and all over the paper...as has happened with some loads tried in various snubs. Ten yards may very well be ten times the distance most of us will ever need to shoot...if ever, but if a handgun/cartridge combination is more than accurate enough at that "extended" distance, it shouldn't give any bad surprises closer.

    I agree that close-in, fast and furious, is the usual deal...until it isn't. I just like to know if a load is capable of going where I want it whether at near contact distances to out a little.

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    In a 38 snubbie I dislike shooting +P loads. Guess that's why I no longer own one. But believe it or not, the best performing ammo for the 38 snub is no longer being made. It was the Federal NYCLAD hollow point round and it was originally marketed for being clean to use. By happenstance it generated nearly full expansion at standard chamber pressures. Dunno why it was discontinued.
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    Great review...thanks Mr. C.
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    Good review. And danged nice group with the Speer. Good shooting.
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    Hello and thanks very much.

    ExSoldier: I don't know why Federal discontinued their Nyclad line of ammunition. As you mention, their standard pressure 125-gr hollow point expanded pretty nicely from the snub. I also had good luck with their 9mm 124-gr. Nyclad hollow point.

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    I'm not an ammo guru so forgive me if this is a stupid question. But wasn't the Nyclad 9mm what was used during the Miami shootout? If so, perhaps that led to them dropping that line. Not that it was an ammo problem from what I understand, but perception can be reality.
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    Hello. No, sir; I believe that was Winchester Silvertip.

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    Stephen,
    1st class as usual. Thank you very much for the info, I have some of the Federal Nyclad ammo but have switched all the snubs to the Speer Short Barrel ammo. Safe shooting and God Bless.
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    The more I carry my Taurus 85, the more I feel inclined to sell my BIG pistols, and buy another Snubby. This time the hammerless version.
    They are just so sweet to carry... I carry mine while riding my motorcycle in my nemesis holster in my front pocket. I forget its there at times....
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