Has anyone seen Kelly McCann's "In the Crucible" series?

Has anyone seen Kelly McCann's "In the Crucible" series?

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    Has anyone seen Kelly McCann's "In the Crucible" series?

    I would like to build a library of training DVD's. I've seen a tape with this guy doing a couple of shooting drills, and this dude is FAST!

    However, that does not necessarily translate into a quality training tool.

    Anyone seen 'em? Anyone got 'em? Would you spend $235 for a set of these things? Thanks to all for your input.


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    Post Paladin Press has them for $224.00

    Just so members know who/what you're talking about.
    I honestly cannot add much except for the fact that I've heard the name.

    COMBATIVES
    Jim Grover (AKA Kelly McCann)


    In the days following the September 11 attacks on New York City, television viewers grew involuntarily dependent on CNN for news, warnings, and alerts of possible subsequent acts of terrorism. It was around this time that we inevitably became aware of the government’s reliance on one H. Kelly McCann for insight into what might transpire next.

    McCann regularly appeared on various news programs to update the anchors on what US military actions were taking place, as well as what desperate responses could be expected from the Taliban and Al-Qaeda forces. Strangely, to some of us familiar with counter-terrorism and executive security, McCann’s physical appearance suspiciously resembled that of Jim Grover, another well-known security specialist whose sober, no-nonsense advice and tactics could be found in lucid books and videos available from Paladin Press.It took only a day for us to confirm that H. Kelly McCann was Jim Grover; or rather, that “Jim Grover” is a pseudonym for H. Kelly McCann.

    According to Paladin, “Jim Grover [read: Kelly McCann] is a real-world operator who knows what works and what doesn’t from violent personal experience.” They further inform us that, “his professional credentials in crime avoidance and self-defense are as good as it gets: on-site security specialist in the world's hottest of hot spots, firearms and combatives instructor to ultrahigh-speed military and police units, and hands-on security trainer to international corporations, among other sensitive assignments.”

    Of course, you would say, it is the publisher’s duty to hype its authors with exaggerated claims. But, I would respond, I have found no exaggeration in any of Grover’s materials. A good case in point is the three-tape set of Combatives videos that I had the opportunity to evaluate last summer.

    Within the informal setting of his training facility Grover, dressed in jeans and a cut-off sweatshirt, presents step-by-step instruction in an easily learned, exceptionally brutal, and devastatingly effective system of hand-to-hand combat. Grover has culled the most fool-proof components of military combatives, finessed them, and formulated them into a hard-core street fighting method.Because this method has been dummy-proofed for untrained viewer, trained martial artists will find it extremely easy to adopt and incorporate Grover’s techniques into their own defensive systems.

    Why, you ask, would you need this method if you’re already trained in a defensive system? Because Grover’s method is made up of vicious responses against attackers who may also have martial arts training. There are not only techniques against punchers and kickers, but also strategies and tactics to use against club attacks, knife attacks, gun threats, and even the currently trendy ground fighters.(Watch out, Gracies!Grover’s techniques are meant for the street, not just the Octagon.)What’s that you say? Ripping out eyes in the manner Grover demonstrates in not allowed in the ring? Well, as Grover himself would reply, “The only dirty fight is the one you lose.”

    Reviewed by James Loriega

    The three-tape Combatives set may be ordered from
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    Kelly McCann's DVD are overall very good. They are far above average for what else is out there.

    Just because HE can shoot doesn't mean he can teach you to fight but Kelly is one of the few guys who can both fight AND teach you to fight better.
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    For that much money, they better come with a gun.

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    A set of good training DVDs will teach you things that buying another gun can't.
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    I have all his videos/DVDs except the expanding baton one.

    The crucible series gets an A+ rating in my opinion (in my collection of over 150 martial art/SD/Shooting library), as does the combatives set and self-offense tape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoRavens View Post
    I have all his videos/DVDs except the expanding baton one.

    The crucible series gets an A+ rating in my opinion (in my collection of over 150 martial art/SD/Shooting library), as does the combatives set and self-offense tape.
    Thank you!!! That's the kind of feedback I've been looking for.

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    Your welcome . If you're starting a library I would also recommend he material by South'Narc (http://www.shivworks.com/products.asp)
    and John Perkins (http://www.attackproof.com/) (the latter is not gun related)
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    Kelly McCann's "In the Crucible" series ... "None better" - "Second to None" - "Light Years Ahead of All Others" ... enough said.

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    Thanks, guys! I am building a small library and will consider all other suggestions as well. I've heard that "South Narc" is good, too. I'll check him out. Thanks again for the feedback. Keep it comin'. Thanks!

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    South Narc's Fighting Handgun DVD is very good. BUT, most of the content might fly over the head of a beginner. It's mostly ECQC technique that is built up from a formal draw stroke by the numbers and a pectoral index position for moving and shooting.

    If you are looking for a great primer on ECQC shooting I don't think you could do better than South Narc's. McCann's CQ shooting DVD is different but still good.
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    Do you want just gun stuff or the whole spectrum?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShackleMeNot View Post
    South Narc's Fighting Handgun DVD is very good. BUT, most of the content might fly over the head of a beginner.
    If you are looking for a great primer on ECQC shooting I don't think you could do better than South Narc's. McCann's CQ shooting DVD is different but still good.
    I am looking for some intro level stuff for new students, but at this stage of the game my primary interest is in polishing my existing skills a bit and then further advancing them. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoRavens View Post
    Do you want just gun stuff or the whole spectrum?
    The whole spectrum from a mindset/situational awareness/avoidence standpoint is vitally important. However, I spent about 4 years studying a martial art and have come to the conclusion that while it's better than nothing, I am not really willing to risk serious/permanent injury by going toe to toe with an attacker.
    If I am allowed an avenue of escape, I'll certainly take it (gladly!) but otherwise, if lethal force is the unavoidable last resort, then that's what I will employ. So, yeah, mostly gun stuff. (I'm getting too old to fight, and have too many injuries already. I'm at the stage in life where I no longer feel as though I have something to prove.) Thank you.

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    South Narc's - ECQC shooting / knife dvd's are good to go - outstanding !

    McCann's - CQC 5 dvd series and all other dvd's are good to go -
    outstanding !

    Awerbuck - Combat Shotgun dvd is good to go - outstanding !

    for personal protection, concealed, tactical, or combat -- or whatever other names used ... the 3 Names above are the best with dvd's on the market. There are a few more instructors, I know which rank right up there with these 3, but they do not make dvd's or write books. If going to buy dvd's the above cannot be beat.

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