Question about man mentioned in Unintended Consequences: Ad Topperwein

Question about man mentioned in Unintended Consequences: Ad Topperwein

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    Question Question about man mentioned in Unintended Consequences: Ad Topperwein

    Okay, I read Unintended Consequences a few years ago, and I enjoyed it.

    John Ross mentioned (heavily) a man named Ad Topperwein, who in the early 20th century was known for being able to shoot 1.5" blocks of pinewood out of the air with a BAR!

    Now, I haven't gone looking around the web yet, but why haven't I seen ANY mention of this man, outside of Unintended Consequences, anywhere in gun-dom? I mean, his name never comes up in any of the gun magazines I now and then read (or used to subscribe to). I never see any mention of an annual award called the "Ad Topperwein Exemplary Marksmanship Award" or anything.

    He's not a fictional make-up on Ross' part, right? He was a real guy?

    Is that stuff about how many thousands of blocks he hit without a miss, in the air, with a BAR, truth?! It's a bit hard to swallow. . .


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    Did anyone see 'Shooting Gallery' last week with the half hour special on John Ross and his toys?
    Very good TV.

    Threadjack over.

    I think Topperwein did exist.

    http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976666926.htm

    http://www.google.com/search?q=Ad+To...ient=firefox-a
    Last edited by Pete; February 16th, 2007 at 04:21 PM. Reason: Name of TV show correction

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    I have had the pleasure of shooting with John at his quarry on several occasions. According to him, nearly every fact presented in the first section of UC is true, but the situations and main characters are fiction.

    He's writing a sequel :) It won't be ready any time soon :(

    Ed Topperwein and his wife Plinky were real exhibition shooters for Winchester. The record (still standing), and the photo in the book, are authentic. I don't know about his having shot block steel with a BAR, but I can't imagine it being beyond his skill to do so.

    I've watched John himself shoot clay birds out of the air with a Suomi 9mm.

    Heck, just ask him yourself! http://www.john-ross.net
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    Thereís a real easy way to find out what you want to know. E-mail John Ross at jrinvest@earthlink.net and ask him.

    By the way, the History Channel aired a special on exhibition shooters a while back, that included footage of Ad Topperwein and Plinky giving an exhibition shooting demonstration years ago. Also, when John Ross appeared on the Outdoor Channelís Shooting Gallery show a couple of weeks ago, he showed the host, Michael Bane the .50 BMG rifle he built to shoot clay pigeons with. Yes, he has been using it to shoot clay pigeons.

    The reason youíve probably not heard of Ad Topperwein is he died decades ago. Most folks who have been dead that long, tend not to be mentioned much in current periodicals.
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    Not only as he a real man but he was an older relative of Rex Applegate.
    Applegate used to assist him by throwing up the targets when he was visiting the Applegate family's ranch in Oregon.

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    On either History Channel or TLC they had a show recently called Sharpshooters and they showed a very old & grainy film with Ad Topperwein doing his thing.
    You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
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    Here are a few sites with lots of info about both of the Topperweins. Among other things mentioned is that is Ad's wife Pinky was told by no less an expert than Annie Oakley that she was the greatest shooter of all time. Ad had lots of competition - his wife.

    http://www.traphof.org/inductees/topperwein.htm
    http://www.traphof.org/roadtoyesterday/november2000.htm
    http://rmoa.unm.edu/docviewer.php?do...cob-m00064.xml
    http://www.showmanshooter.com/html/b...epperwein.html
    http://www.rainbowsendbb.com/museum.html
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