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This is a discussion on pictures of bullets from water jug tests within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by BlueNinjaGo Nice pictures... might not represent what they'd do in flesh, but i think it's nice to see. Anyone here have a ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueNinjaGo View Post
    Nice pictures... might not represent what they'd do in flesh, but i think it's nice to see.

    Anyone here have a few dead pigs to test some JHP's on? I know they use them for most tests.
    They have hog hunting season down there in Texico right? Would be fun to get out there and do some testing yourself.


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    While it may not add a lot to its lethality, not many rounds I have ever seen were any more impressive than these:

    Did these a couple of years ago in water jugs








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    Those would be my ammo of choice in every handgun I own.
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    Great photos, 9mmPro. Thanks for following up and posting them.

    I'd hate to be wounded by anyone of those rounds..!!
    What we've got here is failure to communicate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by los View Post
    Great photos, 9mmPro. Thanks for following up and posting them.

    I'd hate to be wounded by anyone of those rounds..!!
    I hate getting shot by an airsoft gun or in paintball...forget a 9mm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuda66 View Post
    Actually, they use 10% ballistic gelatin for most tests, as it can be calibrated and is consistant.

    I have yet to see any ammo companies posting their "pig corpse test data".
    Oops... I meant for human replica's... Like how they use them on Mythbusters and Deadliest Warrior. I just remember my biology teacher telling us that the pig is the closest animal to a human being. (Excluding primates I guess.) I figured a pig might be easier to get a hold of versus ballistic gel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmdrdredd View Post
    I hate getting shot by an airsoft gun or in paintball...forget a 9mm
    I can certainly relate to that..!! Ouchy Mama,,!
    What we've got here is failure to communicate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueNinjaGo View Post
    Oops... I meant for human replica's... Like how they use them on Mythbusters and Deadliest Warrior. I just remember my biology teacher telling us that the pig is the closest animal to a human being. (Excluding primates I guess.) I figured a pig might be easier to get a hold of versus ballistic gel.

    What such a test will tell us is how far any given bullet will penetrate if we're ever attacked by upright-walking pig zombies.

    The pig carcasses that Mythbusters and such use are drained of blood; therefore, the tissue won't have the same composition as a living, breathing homo sapiens; not only that, but they've also been eviscerated, s you don't have all those nice gushy organs to chew through.

    It sure does look cool on camera, though.

    Using a round against a live animal can give some slightly better insight...
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    Ive gotten way more expansion out of both the federal and gold dots in 124 grain when shot into 2 wet phone books placed together. If your going to try and compare bullets make sure they all are the same grain.. Velocity and mass play a big role, of course a light 115grain bullet traveling several hundred feet per second more than a heavy 147 grain bullet will be more "expanded" aka deformed when hitting water or an object.

    I think most would agree that any of the main brand names in 124 grain will do the job and that seems to be the most popular and tested which provides the best balance in velocity and mass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmdrdredd View Post
    I hate getting shot by an airsoft gun or in paintball...forget a 9mm

    Ditto! I remember hitting popped a few times as a kid with BBs. I never said, "Is that all you've got?" and asked for seconds. That's why I don't put much heart into caliber or bullet selection. I don't think anyone wants to get shot by anything.

    A HP is probably better for SD than a FMJ, but not always. But then, I love a .45 ACP and think any bullet out of it will do the job.
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    As far as tests go this is an interesting website:

    The Box O' Truth - Ammo Penetration testing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuda66 View Post
    What such a test will tell us is how far any given bullet will penetrate if we're ever attacked by upright-walking pig zombies.
    As opposed to upright-walking ballistic gel zombies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majorlk View Post
    As opposed to upright-walking ballistic gel zombies?
    This. Here's my problem with ballistic gel. It's consistent. There's no bones, cavities, organs, etc etc. I'm not trying to say one is better than the other, but there's issues with every test medium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majorlk View Post
    As opposed to upright-walking ballistic gel zombies?
    Tuche'.
    What we've got here is failure to communicate.

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    Still think you guys ought to get out there and do some hunting. I shot a ground hog 6 times this afternoon with 9mm Hydashocks, 147 gr. Poor shot placement on my part, he snorted and went back down the hole. I am sure he died.
    On the other hand I have killed many groundhogs with one shot from a 22 rifle.

    Shot placement > ammo

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