Tell me about these four

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    Tell me about these four

    Springfield TRP 5" barrell.
    Kimber Tactical Pro II 4.25" barrell
    Sig Sauer 1911 C3 4.25" barrell.
    S&W 4566 TSW 4.25" barrell.

    I am curious about your experiences with these specimens. Seems like we all have different experiences with what we carry/shoot. Everytime I read reports on different brands, and models, it seems like we are opening a box of chocolates. We all get something different out of the same box.

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    My one friend has a TRP that he's been wanting to sell; I've never shot it, but played w/ the trigger and the trigger is a dream!

    My BIL has a kimber ultra carry II (I know different model), and it's o.k., but nothing too exciting to me.

    No experience w/ the others.
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    Of the 4 I've heard the most good things about the Springfield TRP and have heard the least info about the Sig 1911. Most people I talk to forget that Sig builds some 1911s in addition to their other pistols. I have fired a Kimber and a Springfield and I think the Springfield had better craftsmanship.

    Then again I bought myself a Dan Wesson CBOB 2 weeks later which is a step above those two. Take that for what you will.
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    I shoot a Springer 1911-A1 Loaded, almost the same thing as the trp besides a match grade barrell. I love it when it come down to it, it was between a kimber and a springer and i think i made the right choice. the trigger is crisp and smooth and the sights are a dream. i have never shot any of the others though so i cant really say but i know that ill deff buy another springfield 1911 hopefully an EMP or a micro compact. But either way you wont go wrong with any of those they are all great guns.

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    I have a relatively new TRP, and a Kimber Pro CDPII (also a Sig 220, but that's not on your list).

    The Kimber is essentially a Lightweight Commander, carries easily with its shorter length and lighter weight, and it's a handsome gun. Absolutely reliable, but I'm not in love with the Swartz firing pin-blocking safety system. That might disappear sometime.

    I bought the TRP as my go-to 1911, the one gun I'd take if I could only have one. Based on recommendations from some SWAT guys I've trained with, I really lusted after a Professional model but I couldn't swing almost $3K. The Springfield Custom Shop guys at the NRA Convention last year told me the very best value in a "duty" type 1911 was the TRP, and I found a deal on one on Gun Broker last summer.

    Recently I've been doing some action shooting (steel plates) with the gun to get rounds through it before my Thunder Ranch course in May. Even with premium mags and hardball, it still has some chambering problems that prevent the slide from going into battery, maybe about 1 time in 50. Good, but not good enough. Just yesterday I had a chat with local gunsmith Eric Zinn, and he's getting the TRP next week for a reliability job. Just some fine tuning - throat the chamber, polish the ramp and breechface, that sort of stuff.

    But the TRP is a solid gun, and very well-made. Fit and finish are flawless. Trigger is around 5 pounds and is pretty crisp for a factory trigger - not quite the glass rod but darn close. The gun is more accurate than I am.

    I have no hesitation in recommending the TRP, and Springfields in general (my first 1911 is a Springer, coming up on 20 years old). Customer service is tops, as well.
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    Only one I've had experience with was the Sig. To be more exact the 1911 RCS. Same basic gun as the C3 except it has been completely dehorned. Accurate, reliable and a joy to shoot.
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    Well, not too many responses. I was asking because these are my carry guns.(in pairs of course.).

    The only thing I did was replace my Smith&Wesson for a Les Baer TRS.(a commander size traded for a Government size.)

    I have not had any malfunctions out of any of these five mentioned, and the TRS I've had for 6 years now.

    They are easy to rotate. Normally I take a full size ( TRP or TRS), and pair it with a compact ( Sig C3, or Tactical Pro).

    Add a couple of good holsters, and I carry primary, and B.U.G daily. After 6 months carrying pairs of 1911s, they do not feel like a HEAVY burden as I first thought. Now, they balance each other nicely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubbahoundog View Post
    Tell me about ... Kimber Tactical Pro II 4.25" barrell
    In the past few months, I had been considering the purchase of my first 1911. Among the short list of models I had seriously considered, the Kimber Tactical II was one. This was due to the size and features. The specific sizes that most interested me were the Ultra or Pro. Ideally, I was looking for something under 26oz, bull barrel, night sights, reputation for toughness and reliability, good customer service and after-purchase support, decent support by the after-market, for holsters and gunsmithing.

    Being new to 1911's, I was a bit concerned with the reports described by folks reporting on the internet, both pro and con. It's hard to know what the failure rate is, of a given make/model of gun when all you know is a dozen different stories. What I sought was the most reliable, most durable 1911 style pistol that 11111had included most of my list of key features and great after-market support.

    I considered the scandium-framed S&W 1911's, a SIG 1911 compact, a pre-owned Les Baer, the Springfield Armory lightweight commander, the Springfield EMP 9mm, STI (Shadow, Eclipse, Escort), the Para Ordnance PDX LDA pistols (Carry 9, Carry [.45], CCO, Companion), and the Kimber Tactical [Ultra and Pro].

    My choice was: STI's Shadow 3.0" Officer's sized pistol, with bull barrel, night sights, Wilson magazines. Am still going through the break-in phase, so no particular comments at this stage. But I was within a breath of acquiring a well-documented, a one-owner Tactical II, on the day of the purchase.

    While I can't tell you much more about the Tactical II, I think it says something that it was my final alternative selection against my actual choice of a new STI 1911 pistol.
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    TRP first, than the Sig.....no fan of Kimbers.....
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    I've only had Kimbers...still have two. Some don't like them, but mine have served me well. Now their in the safe as Glocks have entered my EDC world.
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    I love the TRP, its a solid gun for sure. It may need some slight tuning, but that is not a big deal IMO.

    Kimber is more flash than anything these days. They have been going the wrong direction with their 1911's recently.

    The Smith and Sig... a lot of cash for an OK gun. If you can find a deal on them , go for it. Otherwise, I got to say they are not worth the retail price.
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