So I took my girlfriend out for her first time ever shooting a gun today (my Glock 19). She did pretty well but at one point did not rack the slide by pulling back and releasing it but rather rode it forward, and then after the first shot she had a failure to eject. She could have been limp wristing it as well, as I have shot 400+ rounds through it with no issue. I guess my question is should I chalk this one up to the gun or the new shooter?
And Ram Rod, you can't answer as there will be no "Keep the glock, get rid of the girlfriend" talk here :tongue:
Sounds like the shooter to me. My wife did something similar with my Springfield GI. Went through 200+ rounds with no failures in my hands; she jammed it on the third shot. To this day I've never jammed it. Don't worry, with practice she will get it going just fine.
Get your girlfriend a revolver. I took my wife shooting a few weeks ago and she had problems racking the slide on my G19 and LCP. I noticed she was riding the slide instead of letting it slam forward. That caused a failure to fire with the LCP as the slide stopped about a quarter inch short of fully closed. I noticed she was not comfortable with the pistols so I switched her over to my Ruger SP101 and she shot like a pro. Now the sp101 is "her gun".
"You really had to ask that question?" "First time virgin shooter, rode the slide forward when racking the slide and you had a failure to eject? The problem's not the Glock!"
In all seriousness, the problem is likely with the shooter as opposed to the Glock. Work with her more and you shouldn't have any more issues.
If it continues to happen with you as well as your girlfriend, then check the ammo, magazines, and then the Glock. But at this point, it's likely a shooter issue.
Shooter. I see it alot in training. What I do is use dummy rounds in the classroom and have them do it by the number
1. insert mag with the slide closed
2.Pull slide back until it stops and hold it
3. Open your hand holding the slide on my count...1......2...3
that USUALLY lets them see the difference. It might take a few times. It's a bit more effective on the range when they get a CLICK instead of a BANG because the pistol didn't go into battery.
Sounds like the GF, at least you'll get to spend more time at the range with her, and if you've got a girl that will go to the range, she's a keeper.:hand10:
Shooter, fur sur. The slide is designed to be slammed back and to slam forward again. If you ride it either way, you stand a good chance of a misfeed of some sort.
If the gun fired, it chambered well enough. The failure to eject was due to limp wristing. I watched the very same thing happen a couple of weeks ago. I took the same G19 that would not feed, held it with a firm wrist and it cycled every time. Other shooter took it back and it began to fail. Ammo was a little underpowered but couple that with a light hold and that malfed it.
Yours was shooter induced, not how it was chambered.
Yep, if that first round fired then the manner in which the slide was manipulated wasn't the cause.
It will be observed that there are a lot of really foolish and immature shooters posting on YouTube if the selection of accompanying videos on the linked video is any indication.
Burning AK's...hmmph!
Does anyone else feel that YouTube might not show shooting in a positive light with so many of its inane firearms videos? It should be considered a rich sorce for the anti-gunner or for those who have an irrational fear of firearms.
Here is three things to get her to try. They will help eliminate 'limp wristing'.
1st- Have her 'squeeze' the grip tighter with her shooting hand. This forces the wrist to tighten as well. The harder the grip, the tighter the wrist!
2nd- Make sure her off hand is pressing backward while her shooting hand is pushing forward. This, like the 1st one above, forces the wrist to tighten.
3rd- Have her bend her knees & lean forward with her shoulders rolled. Weight on the balls of the feet, not the heels. I've seen a lot of limp wristing that an upright, straight legged stance causes.....especially in women. Sometimes their stance will even be leaning back to counter the weight of handgun being out in front.:nono:
To me this is the same issue as manually loading the first round into the chamber instead of stripping it from the mag.
(I've seen this warning numerous times with 1911's so buying a 1911 will not help.)
Definitely shooter. If the slide doesn't have full force on loading the round it may not eject properly.
Your girl friend just needs to exercise her grip more. :image035: Dirty old man!
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