Moving into the 21st century

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    I still like the 1911, just don't see the point to sticking with something that cost vs dependability is not up to standard. I understand that people differ in their thinking on the subject, but from my experience , the only guns I feel are in the same league with glocks are sig, cz75s and revolvers. The 1911 is just living on it's past reputation in a time when there was nothing better, and alot of industry hype to keep people in business and sell magazines.

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    Oh, almost forgot, just added a g19 to my collection. Been awhile since I had one, and have been wanting to replace it since my wife adopted my 26 as her own. I guess when I retire I will have to turn in my g22 ao I will have an excuse for yet another purchase. 1911s out, glocks in. I'm cleaning house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GLOCKREAPER View Post
    There is nothing innovative about either of those pistols. Just because they were made in the 00's does not make them a 21st century design.
    I neither said they where 21st century design nor anything about innovation in my previous post.

    Both the XDm and M&P have innovative and clever features but that is discussion for another thread.
    There is something about firing 4,200 thirty millimeter rounds/min that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razor02097 View Post
    Both the XDm and M&P have innovative and clever features
    Like what?
    Glock "Perfection" is not just a slogan; it is truth in advertising.

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    a glock, really?
    why in the world wouldnt you go from the 1911 to the XD if anything.
    Same style and setup as the glock but the 1911 grip angle a lot better features.
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    Quote Originally Posted by friesepferd View Post
    a glock, really?
    why in the world wouldnt you go from the 1911 to the XD if anything.
    Same style and setup as the glock but the 1911 grip angle a lot better features.
    Somewhat yes. I personally do not feel the xd is as proven. Additionally, I have alot of experience with he glock, and am qualified to service them, owned my first one back in the early 80s when they first hit the scene so I trust them. To me the xd is a copy and ao I would rather stick with the real deal. I would be interested in a side by side torture test of the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GLOCKREAPER View Post
    Like what?
    Seriously?

    Changeable back straps on the XDm and palm swell on the M&P, ambidextrous mag release, M&P metal sub frames, M&P stainless melonite slide, XDm high cap magazines just to name a few things.
    There is something about firing 4,200 thirty millimeter rounds/min that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

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    I went from 1911 to glock as well. I just don't like the XD. Why on earth do I need a grip safety?

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    Quote Originally Posted by razor02097 View Post
    Seriously?
    Changeable back straps on the XDm and palm swell on the M&P,
    Colt/clones have had changeable back straps for 105 years now. Not to mention the Walther P99.

    Quote Originally Posted by razor02097 View Post
    Seriously?
    ambidextrous mag release, M&P metal sub frames, M&P stainless melonite slide,
    The USP has had an Ambi mag catch since 1993 and Beretta had a reversible mag catch like the M&P since the 70's. Glock had a Tennifer slide/barrel since 1982.

    Quote Originally Posted by razor02097 View Post
    XDm high cap magazines just to name a few things.
    Lengthening the grip to add a higher capacity magazine is not innovative.
    Glock "Perfection" is not just a slogan; it is truth in advertising.

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    Dear Mother of Nazareth.

    What next...? A car with airbags..??
    What we've got here is failure to communicate.

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    Keeping my 1911 CBOB as my EDC. No Glock here. Hope you're happy with your decision though.

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    All guns are fun. Can't go wrong with a Glock.

    I've got a 1911, XD and a Glock. I like 'em all.
    Trust in God and keep your powder dry

    "A heavily armed citizenry is not about overthrowing the government; it is about preventing the government from overthrowing liberty. A people stripped of their right of self defense is defenseless against their own government." -source

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    If you had gone with a Hi Power instead of a 1911 we wouldn't be having this conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GLOCKREAPER View Post
    Colt/clones have had changeable back straps for 105 years now. Not to mention the Walther P99.
    So Glock is 105 years late to the party right?

    Quote Originally Posted by GLOCKREAPER View Post
    The USP has had an Ambi mag catch since 1993 and Beretta had a reversible mag catch like the M&P since the 70's. Glock had a Tennifer slide/barrel since 1982.
    One point I think you are missing is that you are taking five different manufacturers and designs over a length of time. M&P's and X&D's combined much of these designs into one pistol. To me and many others, it makes a fine pistol.



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    i dont see the XD as a glock copy cat. I see the XD as a glock with all of its problems fixed :)
    its also very reliable. I certainly wouldnt say a glock is more or less reliable.
    as far as the back strap safety- i love it. it does not hinder at all, it does make it safer IMO, and im a 1911 person anyways, i like them.
    In my opinion a glock and a 1911 is about as far from eachother as you can get (other than trigger poundage and obviously being semiauto).
    The XD took the glock and gave it all the important good 1911 features (specifically the grip angle).
    I know the glock angle its great for some people. if so, then go for it. But holding onto a glock makes me crindge. Nothing feels natural. The sites dont come up to my eyes right, etc.
    Again if it works for you great. Im not a glock hater, they are fine guns. The angle just doesnt work for me at ALL
    Wo die Notwehr aufhört, fängt der Mord an
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