This is a discussion on 44 mag within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Bought a Ruger Redhawk 44mag, stainless steel with 4" barrel, last month from Bud's for $645. Needed a "camp" pistol and something I could carry ...
Bought a Ruger Redhawk 44mag, stainless steel with 4" barrel, last month from Bud's for $645. Needed a "camp" pistol and something I could carry when fly-fishing in the northern Rockies. When you're standing knee-deep in a fast moving river and a bear is on the shore behind you, there's no place to run or hide.
The pistol? It's a friggen tank. You can shoot hot loads in the thing all day long and not hurt it. And it's heavy enough that the recoil isn't even worth mentioning. Fifty +P rounds with my S&W 642 and I'm pullin' out an ice-pack. Shot 200 rounds of .44mag in the Redhawk last weekend, and could have done it again if the ammo wasn't so pricey. I'll start reloading the brass to cut my costs.
Don't know if the Ruger is in your price range or not, but it's worth every penny. It's a fine pistol.
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I'm interested in hearing the breakdown of the recipe that costs 7 USD per 100 pieces. Not challenging you or anything, just casually curious. Please share.
ETA: Unless you reload, 44 can be an expensive habit to maintain.
Last edited by Moga; April 10th, 2010 at 02:30 AM.
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[QUOTE=RebelRabbi;1572558]Super Blackhawk Ruger with a 7 1/2 inch Bbl is the ONLY fun 44 MAGNUM QUOTE]
+1 I have had a Ruger Super Blackhawk .44 mag for 20+ years, and I love it. My boys are 15 and 16 now, but they have been shooting it since they were 7 and 8. I have Pachmyer(sp?) Decellarator grips on it, and never have had a problem, even with hot reloads. I also reload for it, so it doesn't cost much to plink for me..
S&W ALL THE WAY!!! If you hunt for them, You can find them for around 500.00
I've shot my friend's Taurus Raging Bull .44, I thought it was a very good piece for the money. I'd try to spend a little more and to get one of those mentioned above though - I've shot the Redhawk and the Dan Wesson, and like the Super Redhawk & Smith 629.
Only thing about the Taurus was my buddy's got stolen. When later recovered, it had been partially disassembled... getting the screw that was missing took FOREVER, I guess it was ordered from Brazil.
What we've got here is failure to communicate.
I'm going to be adding a .44 to my collection as the family and I go camping and I want something that can take care of land critters and water critters (like alligators) alike. My research led me to wanting a Ruger, most likely the Super Redhawk with the snub barrel.
You may start out with something just for the range or what have you, but who knows what you may do later. If you can, get the best you can.
+1 I have had a Ruger Super Blackhawk .44 mag for 20+ years, and I love it. My boys are 15 and 16 now, but they have been shooting it since they were 7 and 8. I have Pachmyer(sp?) Decellarator grips on it, and never have had a problem, even with hot reloads. I also reload for it, so it doesn't cost much to plink for me..[/QUOTE]
I went to the range with my buddy down south last year and we took his dad's old Super Blackhawk out. My first reaction after shooting it was "This is ridiculous!" LOL Its a nice gun though, even after all these years.
I should have also said that mine is a 7.5 inch barrel. I love shooting it. Mine is blued, but I used to have a stainless one. But stupid me, I sold it..
I'm pro S&W, as I own 4 of them. Not sure what reasonably priced is for you, but I recently got a S&W 629 Classic in .44 Magnum. 5 inch barrel, full lug, nice pair of Hogue grips, adjustable rear sight, 45.5 ounces.
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That's the beauty of a revolver, you do not lose your brass. You will get many dozen reloads out of each cartridge.What, lead casting? Where do you even get 100 pieces of 44 brass for $7?
I have a 4" S&W 629-2 and a Ruger Super Redhawk. Both very nice guns.
COSTS to reload (below)
for .223, .308 and .45 ACP
for 44 mag you will need to add about 10 cents per round as they are more for bullets
Costs of reloading as of Mar 29, 2002
Varget, 8 pounds is 110.95 =6.5% sales tax = 118.16
1 pound = 14.77
Bullets .223 = 77.00 + 6.5% Sales tax = 82.005 per 500 moly coated Sierra Match King 77 Grain.
Bullets .308 = 110.00 + 6.5% Sales Tax = 117.15 per 500 moly coated Sierra Match King 175 Grain
Primers Sm Winchester Rifle = 15.95 per thousand
Primers LG Winchester Rifle = 15.95 per thousand
IF CCI (7.62 NATO) #34 = 16.95 per thousand
Brass .223 , new, Winchester = $130.00 per thousand
Brass .308, new, Winchester = $200.43 per thousand
.0517 24.5 grains POWDER .0928 44.0 grains
.1641 BULLET .2343
.0160 PRIMER .0160
.2318 SUB TOTAL .3431 ALREADY OWN THE BRASS
.2818 With Once Fired Br. .3931
.3618 WITH NEW BRASS .5435
Costs of Reloading as of Dec 27, 2009
(man, what a difference a few years makes!)
Varget, 8 pounds is 135.00 (NO SALES TAX added as it is diff per state/city)
1 pound = 16.88 (powder valley)
Bullets .223 = 103 for 500 Not moly Sierra Match King 77 Grain (powder valley)
Bullets .223 = 124 per 500 moly coated Sierra Match King 77 Grain. (Powder valley)
Bullets .308 = 107.00 per 500 NOT moly Sierra Match King 175 Grain (Powder valley)
Bullets .308 = 140.00 per 500 moly coated Sierra Match King 175 Grain (Powder valley)
Primers Sm Winchester Rifle = 26.00 per thousand (Powder valley)
Primers LG Winchester Rifle = 26.00 per thousand (Powder valley)
IF CCI (7.62 NATO) #34 = Not Available... (MILITARY IS USING THEM ALL) per thousand
Brass .223 , NEW, Winchester = $200.00 per thousand (powder Valley)
Brass .308, NEW, Winchester = $320.00 per thousand (powder Valley)
Brass .223, Once fired, Winchester = $128.00 per thousand (Scharch MFG)
Brass .308, Once fired, Winchester = $208.00 per thousand (Scharch MFG)
.0591 24.5 grains POWDER .1061 44.0 grains
.206 / .248 Moly BULLET .214 / .280 Moly
.026 PRIMER .026
.2911 / .3331 Moly SUB TOTAL .5261 / .5921 Moly ALREADY OWN THE BRASS
.4191 / 4611 Moly With Once Fired Br. .7371 / .8001 Moly (buying once fired)
.4911 / .5331 Moly WITH NEW BRASS .8461 / .9121 Moly (buying NEW brass)
Keep in mind, that you can cycle your brass FOUR times through an autoloading (semi auto) type weapon (AR-15, M1A).
If you are loading for a bolt rifle, some guys claim TWENTY loads using the M Die.
For .45 Auto (.45 ACP) (as of 11 Apr 2010)
Brass .45 ACP, Once fired, Military and mixed civilian =$79.00 per thousand (Dillon)
Brass .45 ACP, NEW, Starline brand, = $158.80 per thousand (Dillon)
Bullet 230 (Ball) FMJ Winchester brand =$187.00 per thousand (Dillon)
Bullet 200 SWC (semi Wad Cutter) Lead =$78.00 per thousand (Dillon)
Primers LG Winchester Pistol = 29.00 per thousand (Dillon)
Powder, Winchester #231, 8 pounds is 117.00 (NO SALES TAX added as it is diff per state/city)
1 pound = 14.63 (1/8 of above "keg") (Natchez)
Note: if you mail order, for primers and powder you will be accessed a federal charge (Haz-matl) somewhere between $10 to $35 and each place seems to have different rules based on weight or container count!
230 FMJ 200 SWC
.012 5.7Grains POWDER .012 5.7 grains
.187 BULLET .078
.029 PRIMER .029
.228 SUB TOTAL .119 ALREADY OWN BRASS
.307 Once fired BR .197 (buying once fired)
.387 New BR ..278 (buying NEW brass)