This is a discussion on 380 or 38 Special for pocket carry. Pick one. within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Mike in VA Revolvers are nearly dead as defense weapons. Just like a knife because they're no longer nearly as effective on ...
7 rounds of 380
5 rounds of 38 Special
Actually, I would consider a snubbie in the same size class as a sub-compact pistol, like a Glock 26. A .380 is a whole size class smaller, so I'm not sure this is a valid comparison.
For pocket carry, I choose the .380. How some of you can conceal a snubbie in your pocket is beyond me...MC Hammer pants?
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Let us not forget the average shooting is only two to three rounds anything above that is security blanket. The 38 Special S&W 442 is about as fine a front pocket carry as you can get. I know that there will be a lot of stories that you need 10 to 16 rds but I don't believe them. After three rounds get the he&& out of there and live another day. I was looking at some 38+P's from Buffalo Bore and they are around 350 lbs ft of ME if that isn't enough don't go.
either one will work, and they do for me.
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Although I have both (LCP and 442), and have carried both as either a BUG or primary due to the situation, I voted .380 based on the ease of concealment, virtually NO printing in a Galco pocket holster, additional rounds available as well as additional mag easily carried. JMO
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I see so many posts of folks who can't pocket carry a j-frame. I'm not sure where guys are buying their britches these days, or what the new fangled miniature pocket style is, but I carried a XD40sc in my right pocket yesterday and about 5 pounds worth of keys, money clip, pocket knife, etc. in the other...in dress pants.
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When I carry my 37-2 Airweight in the same pants it almost completely disappears. I'm been pocket carrying one 5-shot revolver or another since 1995 when I got my first CHP and I've never had a problem with it.
Either folks today are buying a lot of Emo pants, or they are overly concerned about printing. Just because something looks like it could be a gun doesn't mean it is, and the average person isn't going to notice anyway.
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Have owned and shot lots of revolvers and semi-autos over many years and do own .38 Special and .380 guns. I'll enthusiastically vote for the .38 Special and the revolver over the .380 ACP and the semi-auto.
Statements claiming "rough equivalency" of .38 Special and .380 along with discriminately selected data fail to impress. To claim that "revolvers are nearly dead as defense weapons" is only an attempt to be inflammatory or else simply a display of ignorance.
The .38 Special cartridge, when loaded with 158 grain lead semi-wadcutter ammunition in either standard or +P guise, is considerably more effective in actual field use than is the .380 ACP and the revolver is more stubbornly reliable. The person who claims to be unable to effectively carry a tiny J-Frame sized revolver is simply not willing to make the effort to do so. With all the clothing options available along with the great holster products on the market, carrying a small revolver is effortless indeed. Lots of folks are doing it right now.
Despite the obvious ease of toting a J-Frame sized revolver, it is still a (mostly) free country and one has the prerogative to make his own determination about the relative convenience of his firearms.
I think it depends entirely upon your pocket types (depth), type of pants worn, and body size.
Overall I would vote for the most capable and powerful that can be concealed effectively.
Women's pants are not at all friendly to pocket carry. The only ones I can really do this with are cargo pants from the mens dept. Some women's Carhartts would work, but hubby already wears them and we cannot run around looking like twins.
I have both and I'm very pleased with both. I pocket carry the LCP all the time. It doesn't print at all and is so light, I forget it's there. I like Cor-Bon DPX in the LCP.
5 rounds 38 special for me. That said I dont pocket carry my .38 special and will probably get the newer Taurus .380 for CC down the road here.
.38 S&W for me. Lightweight, reliable, and fits easily in my cargo shorts front pocket in a Desantis Super Fly holster.
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My vote goes to 38 Special.
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FWIW, she works for the Medical Examiner of a HUGE county, as a forensic investigator, and she uses an S&W Airlite 7-shot .38 snubby, or Kahr K9, for self-defense, with a strong preference for the snubby. She owns a Kel-tec .32, and uses it as a paperweight. She makes FAR more death scenes than I do, as that is her whole job; my job is general street patrol over a much smaller beat.
I just read some of the other posts in more detail. Mercy, the revolver is NOT dead! IIRC, the S&W Model 642 is still a sales leader for S&W, and Ruger's recent business model is certainly NOT to release a weapon that will not sell, and they have recently introduced the LCR, and the .327 Federal Magnum in the SP101.
FWIW, I have an SP101 in my pocket right now. (I mostly use pocket carry around the house nowadays.) On the street, I use P229 autopistols as primary weapons, whether in a police uniform or not, but for specialized times I want a BIG handgun, I still like the Ruger GP100. I reckon I am most likely to engage a bad guy with a P229, by default, but ya never know, 'til it happens. My sixguns are not dead.