380 or 38 Special for pocket carry. Pick one.
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The 380 offers 7 rounds with the following ...
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April 9th, 2010 11:24 AM
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380 or 38 Special for pocket carry. Pick one.
Two different options for pocket carry a Kel-Tec (or Ruger LCP) 380 or J-frame 38 Special (Mag-Na-Ported).
The 380 offers 7 rounds with the following ballistics:
102 gr. Golden Saber @ 775 F.P.S. / 136# KE
90 gr. Hydra Shock @ 845 F.P.S. / 143# KE
The ported Model 638 offers 5 shots with slightly more power:
110 Silvertip (not +p) 821 F.P.S. / 165# KE
130 gr. Bonded PDX +P 848 F.P.S. / 207# KE
Which one would you pick for pocket carry? Why?
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April 9th, 2010 11:24 AM
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April 9th, 2010 11:48 AM
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If you can conceal the revolver I'd say go for it. Personally I have an LCR and I find my self leaving it at home because in a pair of jeans the grip protrudes nearly out the pocket. Same thing in cargo shorts unless they have pretty deep front pockets, which mine don't, and carrying the gun in the actual cargo pocket is somewhat uncomfortable. When actually walking the gun brushes against my leg, so it's hard to forget it's there. With the LCP you won't even know you have a gun on you.
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April 9th, 2010 12:14 PM
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Oops. I didn't see where the TC mentioned "pocket carry".
I'd take a .38 due to ammo availability and the extra power. But I can't imagine pocket carrying one, except for maybe a very large jacket pocket.
For a real pocket carry, a Ruger LCP is where I'd put my money.
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April 9th, 2010 12:43 PM
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Easy choice. Go with the J-Frame. Reliability.
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April 9th, 2010 12:50 PM
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I have both, I have carried each, just this week.
My preference if making a choice would be the .38...still easy to conceal and a little more powerful SD weapon.
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April 9th, 2010 12:53 PM
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I'll take the seven 95gr Gold Dots with 950FPS and 200FPE over the 5 rounds .38 with just slightly higher ballistics. Faster reloads and more firepower wins the day IMO. YMMV
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April 9th, 2010 12:58 PM
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J-frame .38 anyday of the week.
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April 9th, 2010 01:19 PM
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I have a chioce of carry guns. However, if I were to have to choose only one, and were going out to buy one single all-around PDW, I'd go with a J-frame. A 442, 642, 637 etc.
380s are inexpensive to buy and (when you can find ammo) fairly inexpensive to shoot. 38 can get expensive. Regardless of what you choose remember you'll need to practice with it. How that plays in your financial situation up to you.
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April 9th, 2010 01:23 PM
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My Ruger LCR is always with me. Great little revolver.
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April 9th, 2010 01:31 PM
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.38 the 642 all but disapears in your pocket... plus if you have slightly bigger hands I think the J-frame fits the hand a little better then the LCP or the like.
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April 9th, 2010 01:40 PM
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Really either one will work, however the autos are flatter and don't seem to print as much. The .38 is more powerful but is limited to 5 rounds of course. If you can spend the bucks, the Kahr PM9 9mm would be an excellent choice as it is as flat as any .380 and carries the same number of rounds (6+1) and is even more powerful than the .38 snubbie. Just my .02 worth.
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April 9th, 2010 01:49 PM
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Revolvers are nearly dead as defense weapons. I don't think they'll ever die, because they are so simple, but police dropped them for a reason (make that several reasons). Personally, if I had to carry puny, I'd take the .380 way before I'd take a 5-shot. I do have an LCP, but it's backup only, and a backup ought to be little. The LCP can take the place of a reload for your 1911 or Sig, because they weight less than a reload for those weapons.
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April 9th, 2010 01:54 PM
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I would take a 38 sp any day over a .380
There is something about firing 4,200 thirty millimeter rounds/min that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
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April 9th, 2010 01:55 PM
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I would personally avoid a ported barrel for a SD gun. Remember that you don't always have the luxury in a SD situation to extend your arm fully and pull the trigger. You might find yourself being rushed and only have time to pull the gun to your hip before pulling the trigger. This situation will leave you with hot gasses and fouling straight to your face. Think about it. Porting is great for target guns but IMO is not helpful in a SD situation.
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April 9th, 2010 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by
Mike in VA
Revolvers are nearly dead as defense weapons.
Not even close.
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Si vis pacem, para bellum
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