This is a discussion on My PT709. Help me decide! within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Quicksabre Yeah that pic of the 709 next to the deck of cards is tempting...but then I read threads like this. Also, ...
Rollo, if your 709 is finicky on ammo,.. it's finicky on ammo. But that's not normal. Mine will devour anything I feed it, as fast as I can pull the trigger. There are many, many 709 owners that are reportring flawless function. Some at round counts approching 1000.
With that said, perhaps it's time to mitigate your damages and sell or trade the Slim for a more consistent functioning, reliable piece.
What we've got here is failure to communicate.
I'd trade it in. I just got my 709 back from repair. Took 8 weeks. I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet so I'm not sure how it will work. I had FTE's and the slide would lock back with 1 round left in the mag. They replaced the extractor but did nothing else. I'm curious to see how it will work.
I've decided what to do. I am going to go back to the range next weekend. I am going to purchase 100 rounds of WWB, 50 rounds of something else and 50 rounds of something else. If all 200 rounds feed I'm calling it good and will carry it. If I get a single failure it's getting sold with full disclosure.
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I'm not a Taurus hater but my adivce would be to ditch the 709 Anf take a look at the Walther PPS. It's about the same size and very accurate. I shoot mine better than my full sized M&P. I have over 800 rounds threw mine and only one FTE when my wife was shooting it. I believe it was due to limp wristing.
I would look at WWB, Federal,Blazer,American Eagle and or Remington UMC..other than the WWB my gun works 100% on ALL the others. And I have no problem with your statement thats what Id probably do also...if the Ruger SR9c had had a problem with any of the other ammo id fed to it but WWB id be doing the same thing..but luckily thats the ONLY one it does not agree with :) .
If it functions fine on WWB, then the gun is fine. That is the most common issue ammo with the 709. My 709 has functioned flawless through 800 rounds on everything I throw at it, including WWB. I run a lot of Federal and American Eagle through mine, but have run a lot of others too. If your SD ammo cycles and fires good in it, then that's the main thing. Cheap range ammo is not made at the same tolerances as SD ammo.
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Its going to be a pain either way. I would not EVER trust your life with it. You might as well keep sending it back until Taurus (may) can get it close to right. Then, if it works decent...trade it in. I would never buy another Taurus SA gun with the experience I had with my pt745. Taurus has great ideas, they just mass produce the things without proper QC or testing. A company should test prototypes enough to know if certain ammo causes problems, and recommend against the ammo. I dont see the point in risking it , when another $150 can get you a good gun. Anyway...I will stop bashing... good luck.
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You've got nothing to lose by running some ammo experiments.
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My 709 is great. I had a problem with failure to extract, but isolated it to the mag. Taurus sent me another mag, in about a week. I took it to the range today and it works like it's supposed to.
I'm a reloader and I try to cut costs by using my own reloads. However, they don't do well in the Taurus. I use PMC and Blazer and it's 100% with the new mag, and the 2nd mag that came with the gun. I've put about 300 rounds through it and I am comfortable carrying the Taurus.
Like the man said, if Glock made a single stack under an inch in width I'd be first in line. Until then, I'll keep my Taurus.