Advice on choosing a handgun, small-framed female

Advice on choosing a handgun, small-framed female

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    Advice on choosing a handgun, small-framed female

    I am a young woman, 5 foot 2 inches tall and 100 pounds and change. Recently, I found myself in a situation which could have very easily turned ugly. I always carry police-grade pepper spray and consider myself to fairly tough for my size, but this incident was the last straw. I'd thrown the idea of purchasing a handgun around in my head for a while, but I no longer wish to put it off. When the crazies come out to play, I won't be a victim.

    So, I'm looking into what handgun would be best for me. I'm fairly comfortable around firearms in general. I have handled a variety of rifles through training with the military and have had exposure to handguns as well, as my father owns a Springfield 1911 EMP 9mm, which I am comfortable and accurate with.

    I figure that a 9mm handgun would be sufficient because it packs solid stopping power with an easily manageable recoil. I would like a compact or subcompact design so that I could easily conceal it.

    I have looked at the Glock 26, the Springfield XD, the S&W M&P Compact, the HK USP Compact and the HK P2000sk, though the last two are a little out of my price range. I am looking to spend between $500 and $800 US, though I am willing to scrape my pennies together if I feel that spending more would be worth it. I have also looked at the Beretta 92 Compact L because it would be very similar to the standard issue sidearm that I will use when I commission in the military. However, I'm having a hard time finding much information on them. As I understand it, the 92 Compact L is still in production but I am not sure.

    Long story short, I am not looking for a "girly" weapon. None of those "ladies" edition pieces with pink handles. I just want a small, sturdy and reliable piece.

    Any feedback, whether on the handguns I mentioned or on another weapon that you think might suit my needs, would be appreciated.

    Thanks, everyone.

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    I have the XD sub compact in .40 and its a great firearm, very reliable, simple to operate and manageable recoil. 9mm is sufficient as a defense round if that's what you are looking for I think a glock 26 or XD is a very wise choice. Have you considered revolvers at all? The .38 +P is plenty of power for self defense and you can fire a wheel gun from inside a pocket or purse, that's something you can't do with a semi-automatic.

    Only reason I really mention the revolver is that my charter arms .38 has such a thin grip when I carry it in waist band its practically invisible even wearing the tightest shirts I own and a pair of shorts. My XD however or any of my other mid size semi-autos can print a chunky grip inside my t-shirt if it shifts around at all.

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    Welcome to the group.

    It sounds like you're well on your way down a good decision path. I'll second LoadedPipes recommendation to consider small revolvers with the exception to recommend the S&W airweight series. 642 or 637 are excellent choices.

    I'm also a big fan of both the G26 and G19 (I don't own an XD but hear mostly good things). Try to rent some of these at the range and see what works best for you. Cheers.
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    What is your price range?

    There are a lot of good compact 9mms on the market

    Look at Glocks The Glock19 or Glock 26

    CZ Rami

    Bersa Thunder 9 compact

    just to name a very few
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    Have you considered CZ in the form of a P-01 or a PCR. The P-01 is NATO certified which says a lot about its reliability and most everyone has heard of the ergonomics of CZs. Do a little research on the web and you'll see what I'm saying. What's more, the trigger reach of the P-01 and PCR will fit most medium and smaller hands.

    CZ-USA -> CZ P01

    CZ-USA -> CZ 75 D PCR COMPACT

    P-01 NATO

    The P-01 is also on sale at Top Gun Supply for the ridiculous price of $460. At that price, it's a total steal.

    CZ-75 Compact P01, Fixed Sights, 9mm - Top Gun Supply

    Otherwise, the M&P9c is also very good and highly recommended and the ability to change grip size/capacity is a big plus.

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    Glock 26, Springfield XD compact, Taurus 709 Slim.

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    Thanks for your input, LoadedPipes and WHEC724,

    You both have suggested revolvers and I've read that revolvers are good choices for women -- can I ask why? LoadedPipes, you had said that they can be fired from inside a handbag easily because of the wheel, but what are the other benefits. Truth be told, I would like to avoid a revolver. I have never had much exposure to them, but they seem to be not as easy to manage as a semi-automatic pistol. Also, I want as many rounds as I can get in my clip. Most revolvers have what, 6 to 8 rounds? I'd like to be able to carry upwards of 10+, because you just never know. I'd also like a semi-automatic because, honestly, it will help better prepare me for military training, I think. Semi-automatics are what I'll be using when I commission, after all, and why not spend as much time with them as you can?

    If there is a significant plus side to revolvers, please let me know. Off the top of my head, I really don't see it.

    Thanks guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgrass101 View Post
    What is your price range?

    just to name a very few
    $500-$800, but I'd be willing to spend a little bit more, maybe to $850.
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    Here's a thought. Try to get Dad to cough up the EMP! That would fill the bill nicely!

    Of course if that doesn't happen, I would say that any of those you named would be a good choice. (The Beretta I don't know about as even if compact, it might be a bit heavy for EDC.)

    If I were to choose, I wouldn't. Only you can tell what is best for you. I will say that you can't beat the reliability of the G26. ( I prefer the G19 personally.)

    Good luck with your decision. And welcome to the forum!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cz75luver View Post
    Have you considered CZ in the form of a P-01 or a PCR. The P-01 is NATO certified which says a lot about its reliability and most everyone has heard of the ergonomics of CZs. Do a little research on the web and you'll see what I'm saying. What's more, the trigger reach of the P-01 and PCR will fit most medium and smaller hands.

    CZ-USA -> CZ P01

    CZ-USA -> CZ 75 D PCR COMPACT

    P-01 NATO

    The P-01 is also on sale at Top Gun Supply for the ridiculous price of $460. At that price, it's a total steal.

    CZ-75 Compact P01, Fixed Sights, 9mm - Top Gun Supply

    Otherwise, the M&P9c is also very good and highly recommended and the ability to change grip size/capacity is a big plus.
    Thanks for the links, cz75luver. I hadn't looked into CZ's too extensively, but apparently I've been missing out. And the sale at Top Gun Supply? Thanks, man! I'm gonna look into that some more.
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    Your best selection will be the one which fits you the best and which you will always carry (where legal)! Traditional women's pants are made different, making pocket carry more difficult, then if you wear a dress or skirt... yikes the challenge increases! Check out the website corneredcat.com and there are some excellent women on this site who carry everyday.

    The ladysmith revolver and 5913 are great guns, don't count them out, but you can forgo the pink that's ok. Think about how you dress and then be prepared to dress around your gun. On body carry at the waist or torso is the best.

    I think the thin guns conceal the best and prefer the 1911, it fits me. A glock and my hand never felt right but the XD does better. You seem comfortable with the EMP, maybe that's in your future, they are pricey. Don't forget to think about an LCP or similar in your back pocket as a BUG!

    They make conceal t-shirt, spandex pants, belly bands, but a good IWB or OWB holster, a good belt and good cover attire and you should be ok...

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    I wouldn't recommend a revolver based on gender. I'm a guy and proudly own and occasionally carry a 637, as well as an LCP.

    Revolvers conceal really well based on their lumpy outline. You can fire them from within a pocket if you're in a pinch (slides on semi-autos are a roll of the dice in that scenario). If a round doesn't fire, you don't have to clear it, just pull the trigger again and you get a new chamber. You can load snake-shot in a revolver if you're out in the woods. In fact, revolvers really don't care what you shoot out of them, as long as it's the right caliber. Semi-autos can be a little more finicky about the ammo that they prefer. Those are just a few off the top of my head. Although I must disclaim that I'm truly a shameless Glock person when it comes to an EDC carry .

    I'm waiting for Rugergirl to chime in here?
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    Here are some Glocks on Davidson's to give you a ballpark price range link clicky thingy

    and CZ's in which are in the same price range link clickly thing

    I personaly don't like the lack of a manual safety on a Glock but that is my personal opinion, they are good guns and you can become expert with them fast.

    I would suggest trying to find a range that rents pistols and try out a few of different styles to find one that fits your hand.
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    your small jframes are 5 rounds... I have a Taurus 85UL, you'd probably like the Slim, the PF 9, the Kahr better. I agree above, "say hey dad, how about an early b-day and christmas present to keep your daughter safe"! I'd have trouble saying no to any of my girls!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadRunner71 View Post
    Here's a thought. Try to get Dad to cough up the EMP! That would fill the bill nicely!

    Of course if that doesn't happen, I would say that any of those you named would be a good choice. (The Beretta I don't know about as even if compact, it might be a bit heavy for EDC.)

    If I were to choose, I wouldn't. Only you can tell what is best for you. I will say that you can't beat the reliability of the G26. ( I prefer the G19 personally.)

    Good luck with your decision. And welcome to the forum!
    I don't think I could ever get my dad to cough up his EMP; but he did leave it to me in his will, haha. It is a sweet, sweet piece, though. We've gotten some good use out of it.

    As far as Glocks go, I've heard some good and not so good things. I like the G26 because it seems balanced and small, which would be fairly easy for me to conceal. I have heard that their safety mechanism is touchy, though. That is, apparently not much pressure is needed on the trigger and so they sometimes can go off when they aren't intended to. A friend is trying to lead me away from them for that reason, but he does acknowledge that they are solid weapons.

    Thanks for the input, and thanks for the welcome!
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