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    Choices choices...

    I need to get a carry piece. I fondled a Kahr pm40 and I really liked it. Trying to decide between that and a M&P. Any thoughts? Both in 40 by the way.

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    M&P is larger. Are you willing to carry the larger pistol? I'd recommend the M&P because it won't need as much break-in time or any at all. I've fired both and I can't say the Kahr is comfortable. Although it's intended purpose is not the range. I know a guy who had a Kahr pm40 which he could not get running properly, jammed a lot. Even after a trip back to the factory. I'm sure there's other reports on the net about them and having no issues at all. Such is the nature of firearms. The M&P holds more rounds if I'm not mistaken as well. Consider that too.
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    I carry a PM40 and love it. I decided on that particular model because I liked the thin profile (thanks to the single stack mag). I'm not a very big guy, so I worried that I wouldn't be able to conceal a very big gun. I handled a XD40 subcompact, but even that seemed bulky to me. There is that trade-off between more compact and more rounds tho.

    As far as reliability goes, seems to me the word on the street is give the PM40 ~200 rounds to get broken in a little. I'd have to agree with that. I had 2 jams during that break in period but no problems since. It eats any type of ball ammo I try in it and handles my SD rounds just fine (Hornady Tap).

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    just curious why you narrowed it down to those two?
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    I don't really know...I like both. I have an XD 45 in the 4in, but its too bulky for me. I wanted something with a thinner profile, I looked at New Agents and Defenders, they're just more expensive. I even kicked around the idea of a revolver. I do like the PX4 subcompact, but wanted a 40 or 45....they're only available in 9 right now that I can find, and they're thicker too. I'm open for suggestions, what ya got for me? I'm a bigger dude(fat) so I wanted something lighter so it doesn't pull my drawers down.LOL Here in TX there isn't a need for more than a t shirt most of the time.

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    I'm also looking for a nice carry gun but in 9mm. I'm leaning toward the Kahr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FullSizeMike View Post
    I don't really know...I like both. I have an XD 45 in the 4in, but its too bulky for me. I wanted something with a thinner profile, I looked at New Agents and Defenders, they're just more expensive. I even kicked around the idea of a revolver. I do like the PX4 subcompact, but wanted a 40 or 45....they're only available in 9 right now that I can find, and they're thicker too. I'm open for suggestions, what ya got for me? I'm a bigger dude(fat) so I wanted something lighter so it doesn't pull my drawers down.LOL Here in TX there isn't a need for more than a t shirt most of the time.
    I'm in FL, shorts and T-shirt about all year round right...

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    hence the name "full size"

    it gonna come down to what you like and what feels good in yer paw mike..

    if weight is a factor on the gun i'll leave it to the guys who carry those
    being a steel frame guy anything i would suggest in 40 would be to heavy and we certainly don't want you to lose your drawls
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ram Rod View Post
    If you knew what I knew about Glocks it might broaden your horizons. I absolutely love the .40cal by the way. I'm just sayin'.
    +1 Ram Rod.

    I've got an XD sub compact and love it too... But my G-23 is my "go to" gun!
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    I'd go with the M&P,
    but you said you were looking for something thinner than what you already had, so?, I dunno
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    Quote Originally Posted by FullSizeMike View Post
    I don't really know...I like both. I have an XD 45 in the 4in, but its too bulky for me. I wanted something with a thinner profile, I looked at New Agents and Defenders, they're just more expensive. I even kicked around the idea of a revolver. I do like the PX4 subcompact, but wanted a 40 or 45....they're only available in 9 right now that I can find, and they're thicker too. I'm open for suggestions, what ya got for me? I'm a bigger dude(fat) so I wanted something lighter so it doesn't pull my drawers down.LOL Here in TX there isn't a need for more than a t shirt most of the time.
    If you're looking for smaller/thinner, the M&P will not be the one.
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    Honestly, I'd get both, and not just because that's what everyone says when someone mentions a choice between two guns.

    Rather, I'd get both because they're such different sizes.

    There are times when you can conceal a slighty larger gun, and it feels nice having the option. Other times, the smaller gun becomes necessary because of circumstance, and it's much better to have the option than have to do without.

    Think about your day to day life and see if that makes sense for you, but I think for most of us it does.

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    G27 first, The 40 in that PM model can be snappy and rather punishing to the gun from what I hear. I would look towards maybe a P239 or Walther PPS.
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