Ruger SR9C report
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April 21st, 2010 11:29 PM
Ruger SR9C report
Hi gang, (Posted this on the Ruger forum, but I sort of wanted to get some feedback from you guys -- RugerForum.com :: View topic - New SR9c is awesome )
Just picked up a black SR9c and shot it this morning. It is absolutely great. No 200 - 300 round break-in, fluff and buff, etc., etc., was needed (just like my Glocks and Sigs).
Used fmj ball ammo and Rem +P HP def ammo with no hiccups. Very accurate. I was hitting shotgun cases on the ground no matter where they were. Both the 10 round and 17 round magazines fed flawlessly. Did find that my Glock 19 magazine loader worked better than the metal Ruger one however.
Found out something about the magazine disconnect however. As soon as I bought the gun, I tried the disconnect in the parking lot of the gun shop. Seemed like the striker would fire with or without the magazine. Went back in the shop and the other SR9c did this also. The dealer thought that maybe Ruger had stopped putting the magazine disconnect on the guns since so many people do not really like them (me included-my old LEA uses Sigs which do not have them and neither do my two Glocks).
Called Ruger after 5 PM and talked to a rep who said she did not know if they had stopped making the disconnect. She would have a technician call me back.
By the time the technician called me (about 6:30 PM the same evening), I had already figured this thing out by putting a pencil in the barrel and pulling the trigger with and without the magazine. The pencil shot out of the barrel only when the mag was inserted. It appeared that there is some type of striker blocking mechanism that is pushed out of the way only when the mag. is inserted.
The technician was very friendly and agreed with my assessment on this. He did advise not to dry fire the gun without the magazine in place since this puts undue strain on the blocking mechanism.
I know you old time Ruger owners probably were familiar with this mag disconnect mechanism. However, maybe a note in the owner's manual warning about the striker seeming to fire when it actually does not, would be in order for us new Ruger owners.
Just saw a blog showing how to remove this disconnect and I may do this later.
Has anyone removed the loaded chamber indicator? This thing is real ugly and sort of takes away from the sleek lines of an otherwise very good looking pistol. I think an aftermarket plug, nicely finished would sell well. I know I would buy one.
I for one would never trust this loaded chamber indicator since it seems so loose that lint or other things could hold it open.
All in all this seems like a great gun. It may really challenge my Glock 19 or 36, or my Sig 339 carry gun for a place on my belt or glove box.
April 21st, 2010 11:39 PM
we liked the one we handled at the last local show.
Grip was too short for both of us with the standard mag.
Nancy wouldn't hang around to try it with the floorplate mag.
My Dad was looking to buy a new 9mm.
I told him that if not a CZ, he should look at the new SR9s.
A couple weeks ago I gave him my CT equipped P-01
as retirement present.
I'm still glad to see that the SR9Cs are running well and haven't crossed them off my list.
It will be interesting to see what Crimson Trace offers for them in the
April 21st, 2010 11:51 PM
I'll be the troll here, I shot one of these at the range and did not like the fit or finish. Just personal. Five shots, one reload, and done.
April 21st, 2010 11:52 PM
I've shot one and think they're a good deal. I don't love the trigger still, but it is better than the original triggers they had.
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April 22nd, 2010 12:48 AM
Originally Posted by cammo girl
i wasn't impressed with the trigger pull or accuracy either.
April 22nd, 2010 08:42 AM
I love mine. Trigger is as good(light) as my Glocks was(about 6.5pounds) shoots VERY accurately can get my hand on the WHOLE grip without any extras added love the 17 round reload. very nice CC piece. I traded my Glock 23 in on it and have found I now have a much better gun :) .
April 22nd, 2010 08:47 AM
I love mine. It is plenty accurate shooting from the bench and sandbags - I tried that when adjusting the sights to eliminate "operator error" from the equation.
It fit my hand the best by far out of anything I handled at the gun store for less than 6 or 7 hundo.
April 22nd, 2010 08:54 AM
I LOVE MINE!
It's my first CCW and I'm more than thrilled.
I'm not preaching it's better than a springfield or glock (both of which I want at some point in the near future)... but man it's a great gun for reliability (after 600+ rounds so far, not a single issue) and it's deadly accurate.
Again my first CCW and really my first gun (other than shotguns) and I'm getting more and more accurate with it every range trip. The 10+1 magazine is sufficient for conceal carry, and the 17+1 is a great backup mag and home defense mag.
It's not a perfect gun by any means, but I would suggest one to anybody looking for a good affordable conceal weapon. It is rather thin, the measurments on the website are from the ends of the ambidexdrose manual safety, grip thickness is only 0.90-0.92.
For $400 you can't really pass it up, make a nice addition to anybody collection, or in my case a nice first weapon period!
The slide is rather stiff at first though, I've field stripped and racked my slip 100+ times and it is softening up, plus 600 rounds thru out. Comes with wind and elevation adjustable sights as well.
Anyways, in conclusion, great lil gun for the money, and very concealable to boot! My next purchase will prob. be the XD sub-compact (as I'll probably never own anything besides sub-compact weapons). The glock is still a tad to thick for my liking.
April 22nd, 2010 05:27 PM
Yup the thing I liked about it was the "value" you get for the price..its less expensive than a lot of the "similar" guns in its compact class at around $400 NIB with no special secret club discounts or any of that jazz. It has fully ambidextrous controls for the mag release AND safety no bother switching them over or having to settle for something if your a Lefty..its good/made for you too!
Its reliable, it feels/fits great in the hand, its accurate(as accurate if not more so than the Glock 23 was with the stock barrel) its thin, and it looks decent. Right now as its new the only drawback is its lack of aftermarket stuff like good holsters and the mags are rather expensive(but im not a mag hoarder..ive NEVER had more than 3 mags for any gun ive ever owned..I see no need)..BUT even thats coming around.
I just picked up off ebay a Comp-Tac Infidel Kydex holster for $30(new in box) for summer carry..it shipped out today> I will review this when I get it and compare it to the Crossbreed ST I have currently for this gun.
June 16th, 2010 09:59 PM
Here are my thoughts on the SR9C based upon one I recently purchased. Let me preface by saying I am a 43 year veteran of law enforcement (still active as an old guy!) and was looking for a good CCW piece. Having owned other Rugers I hold them in high regard so I picked up an SR9C. I was prepared to have to put several hundred rounds through it (which I actually did) like I had to do with my Springfield EMP to get it to function reliably. I anticipated some FTE's etc but had absolutely no malfunctions in the 200 rounds I fired. I shot a mix of 115 and 125 grain FMJ, some Remington 125 JHP and my carry ammo which is CorBon 100 grain power ball. NOT ONE FTF, FTL OR FTE.
I am a firm believer that most practice needs to be at 7 yards shooting on the move, using cover, and firing double and triple taps. Well I did all that and every shot was 10X in the chest. I decided to do the same thing at 10 yards with the same results. I moved back to 15 yards and shot offhand but trying for accuracy. 11 rounds less than 1.75 inch spread with most rounds touching or making one big hole.
I have large hands. The "pinky extender" for the 10 round mag coupled with the reversable backstrap allows for a full and comfortable grip. This pistol point aims quite nicely. In short, it is a keeper as far as I'm concerned. Very impressed.
June 17th, 2010 08:52 AM
Originally Posted by Ex LASD
me too ive got over 1000 rounds straight through it now without a single fault..Early on I learned it didnt like WWB..it would get light primer hits on that round and only that round..ive shot over 1000 of Blazer brass and Aluminum,Remington UMC,Remington 100 pack hollowpoints,Federal,American eagle 147 grain flat points,that RWS swiss stuff from Walmart,Gold Dots, all went in all came out not a flaw. Just as accurate if not more so than my Glock 23 I traded in on the SR9c and the grips and controls are superb being ambidextrous and adjustable sights.
June 17th, 2010 01:17 PM
I am curious about the mag sleeve for the 17rnd mag. How does that feel when shooting? The couple that I have looked at seemed to be a little loose and sloppy. My concern would be getting pinched when firing. Any experiences?
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June 17th, 2010 03:38 PM
I guess I will add my thoughts on the SR9c. I have only had mine for a couple of months now. Bought the black one and fits great in the Bianci pro 100 I was using for my Bersa Thunder CC. Impressed with the fit and finish and feels really nice in my hand (which are probably smaller than average) with the 10rd mag and no pinky extension.
First time to the range was immediately impressed with the accuracy and I actually love the trigger. I was worried because I had heard negative things about the trigger but I think they are unfounded. I like it much better than any Glock I have ever shot for sure. After 60 flawless rounds I started getting light primer strikes, 2-3 per mag for the last 40 rounds. I hit the internet and found that it is a common issue. I broke it down and cleaned out the striker tunnel. I had cleaned it before ever shooting it but had not removed the striker. I removed the mag disconnect, racked and dry fired a couple hundred times.
Next trip to the range again got me about 60 rounds before I started seeing light strikes. Once again tore it down and cleaned out striker tunnel. I have had the gun to the range several times now and it gets better each time. I now have about 600 rounds through it. I have not cleaned it in the last 300 rounds to see if the problem is related to the gun getting dirty and have experienced a total of 3 light strikes in those 300 rounds. In the interest of full disclosure, all failures have been on my hand loads but I have never had an issue with them in any other gun. I have both CCI and Remington primers with similar result. I have ran about 150 blazer brass, and a box of gold dots through it and all fired fine. Not all factory rounds were fired in succession but all were within the last 300 rounds. Other than this issue, I have not had a single feeding issue or failure to eject.
I do believe this gun needs several break in rounds but would not hesitate to recommend it. As for the grip extension, I have found that I don't like the feel of it and just use the 17 round with it removed. It works fine and feels better to me.
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June 17th, 2010 04:25 PM
snakecharmer: your results are very interesting. CCI primers are known to be hard, but, I've never heard of problems like that with Remington primers. It is very perplexing to me that the light strikes would begin after 50 or 60 rounds are fired.
When I first got my SR9C, I had some light strike failures, but, they all occurred using reloads primed with Wolf primers. I wrote to Wolf, and they acknowledged a problem with hard primers, and actually reimbursed me the full cost of the primers. A truly stand up company! All other brands I tried worked fine.
As an aside, my hammer fired guns never had a problem with those same Wolf primers.
One thing I've noticed is those Wolf primers have to be seated extra hard, and then they seem to work fine. I have some military 9mm cases that had crimped primers, and when I reloaded some of them I had to squash the primers to get them seated in these tight, shallow pockets. They all shot fine. Make certain you seat the questionable primers all the way into the pocket.
Too light for heavy work, too heavy for light work!
June 17th, 2010 04:44 PM
I had heard that about CCI primers but I assume they are the same thing that is used in the CCI Blazer Brass factory stuff and it seems fine with that stuff. And actually only the last 100 rounds were CCI primers. The original hand loads were all Remington primers. I am fairly sure I am seating the primers deep enough. I am priming on my press rather than the hand primer I used to prime with and am pretty sure they seat with enough force. I also find the 60 round threshold interesting which is why I stopped cleaning it after each range session. I was thinking maybe it was getting fouling in the striker channel or something.....I don't know.
Originally Posted by Freedomofchoice
I had read where Ruger sent people a stiffer striker spring that cured the problem. I called them and explained what was going on and asked if they had any suggestions. They wanted me to send it in and offered to pay the shipping but I am a bit concerned that the trigger might not be as nice when I get it back. I figured if they just sent me the spring I would try it but dont want to let them do it and not be able to put it back like it was if I don't like it. I am going to keep shooting it without cleaning it for a couple more hundred rounds and see how it goes before I do anything rash. Still love the gun.
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