Smallest guns that can handle + P?

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    Smallest guns that can handle + P?

    I saw the Rorbaugh 9mm. Sleek design with smooth double action only trigger. However, it does not handle +P rounds.

    Kel Tec's P-9 can but to a limited extent.

    What is the smallest 9 mm pistol that shoots +P?
    What is the smallest 380 caliber that shoots +P?

    Thank you, in advance.
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    What is the smallest 9 mm pistol that shoots +P?
    What is the smallest 380 caliber that shoots +P?
    The Kahr PM9 is probably the smallest 9mm, Kahrs are all small and rated for +P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripley16 View Post
    The Kahr PM9 is probably the smallest 9mm, Kahrs are all small and rated for +P.
    Yep ^^
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    Kahr PM9 and P380 both can handle +P and should be the smallest 9mm and .380
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    Some people use +p+ in the pm9 though not rated for it by the factory
    i think the db380 maybe +p as well
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    I don't think you'll find any gun rated for .380 +P, because there isn't a SAAMI pressure standard for a .380 ACP +P load like there is for 9mm.
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    Keltec manual says the p3at is as long as it is not used extensively.

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    But would you really want to shoot +p's in this little guns?
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    mine shoots them just fine. recoil is not what people will lead you to believe

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    Smallest guns that can handle + P?

    Quote Originally Posted by digitalexplr View Post
    But would you really want to shoot +p's in this little guns?
    I was just curious about the smallest gun that can handle it. For all I know, it's a G26. I just wanted to know if there is something smaller for a BUG.

    I may just get a Ruger LCR, 38.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azchevy View Post
    Keltec manual says the p3at is as long as it is not used extensively.
    yes you right keltec p3at

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDRGlock View Post
    I was just curious about the smallest gun that can handle it. For all I know, it's a G26. I just wanted to know if there is something smaller for a BUG.

    I may just get a Ruger LCR, 38.
    p3at is the smallest ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDRGlock View Post
    I was just curious about the smallest gun that can handle it. For all I know, it's a G26. I just wanted to know if there is something smaller for a BUG.

    I may just get a Ruger LCR, 38.
    The PM9 is smaller than a G26, and it is rated +p. The G26 is heavier too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by digitalexplr View Post
    But would you really want to shoot +p's in this little guns?
    +p ammo works perfect in the PM9. And even when the recoils is sharp, with some practice it is not difficult to handle.
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    The Kel-Tec P11 is only comfortable (small) gun found to shoot the hot
    stuff through. Problem is getting a good grip around it to make it comfortable,
    so a gun grip-wrap would probably help out here. Just have to remember any
    time you shoot a quantity of this stuff, you risk destruction. I had a friend that
    used to fire the stuff and broke the slide on a S&W 5906 stainless steel duty gun (they have aluminum frames) so, it makes me weary after seeing that. I try to shoot one mag of the "good carry stuff" every time on the range just to keep familiar with the difference/feel of the recoil of full power loads. I usually do this as the very last act before leaving, so that I remember it. Some guns that small are just "dangerous" with hot stuff. Some are too small (a mini .22 revolver that can shoot the end of your finger off if you don't keep it out of the way is a good example-violent with .22 CCI Stingers). Got a friend that has a single stack mag Ruger that you're talking about and it is small, but would rather have the P11 Kel-Tec as I believe it is shorter. You can also get a .40 conversion kit for it.

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