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    Ammo testing

    Ok, I just put some orders in for some different kinds of ammo and I would like to know if there is a simple way to test which is best???? I don't have access to any hi tech equipment. Just bought a Glock 20 and am looking to get the best SD and Woods rounds for it.
    I have this ammo coming:
    180 Gr JHP BuffaloBore
    200 Gr WFNGC DoubleTap
    200 Gr Black Talon

    Just would like to know if there are some simple tests I could do?


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    Caliber? I assume .45ACP?

    The tests you do would depend on what you want to know about it. A chronograph would be a start... clothing materials and ballistic gel would be next. Or you could just shoot milk containers of water and logs...

    Most things you want to know has likely already been tested and published.
    There is something about firing 4,200 thirty millimeter rounds/min that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razor02097 View Post
    Caliber? I assume .45ACP?

    The tests you do would depend on what you want to know about it. A chronograph would be a start... clothing materials and ballistic gel would be next. Or you could just shoot milk containers of water and logs...

    Most things you want to know has likely already been tested and published.
    its a 10MM. I have a chrono and the clothing materials. I am having issues finding consistant info too compare these rounds. All the test info I have found favors one or the other and isn't giving all the data on all the test ammo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragman View Post
    its a 10MM. I have a chrono and the clothing materials. I am having issues finding consistant info too compare these rounds. All the test info I have found favors one or the other and isn't giving all the data on all the test ammo.
    You could use water containers in place of ballistic gel but it won't be as consistent. Also the bullet may not be recoverable if it veers out of the container.

    The idea of testing is getting the overall performance

    Is the round reliable? (does it go bang every time?)
    Is it accurate?
    How does the bullet fair? (does it stay together?)
    How fast does it go?
    How deep will it penetrate?
    How much will it expand?
    Does the hollow point get clogged easily?

    If you can answer those questions I would say you can get a good idea about the round. If one performs consistently better then the other then you have a valid test. One note... testing ammo scientifically (even home brew tests) can get expensive...
    There is something about firing 4,200 thirty millimeter rounds/min that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

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    I figure I am gonna spend 200-300 on test ammo. what do you think about testing penatration with plywood? I don't know were to get ballistics gel and don't think the wifey will let me use the pool.

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    plywood would be ok to test to see if it can penetrate walls or floors but won't give you an idea of what happens when it hits tissue...

    example... a round could be really good at knocking logs over and putting holes in 3 sheets of plywood but have a really bad designed hollow point that doesn't open therefore the energy transferred to the target will be a lot less then a round that has a better designed bullet.
    There is something about firing 4,200 thirty millimeter rounds/min that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

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    looks like I have my work cut out for me. I am gonna try the wood and maybe denim layers over a 55 gallon drum "saw someone else did that on this forum" I am excited

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    Wetpacks--basicallly, taped together phone books soaked overnight.

    Google "Wetpack ballistic test" and I'm sure you'll find plenty of info on how to do it.
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    There was a time when I was into all that techie’ stuff but these days I just skim the surface and stay clear of no-name ammo. However, some ammo presents a challenge for the shooter or the firearm. I use .38 110gr CD in my .357 Model-640 as well as .38+P 135gr Gold Dot. The latter is better for my particular gun, whereas the CD has its own unique advantages. Still, they both cost an arm and a leg so anything more than that is for the ballistic boys’.
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    175 grain Winchester Silvertip is the best of breed in 10mm.

    Been around a long time, and will be because it works.

    Not a lot of R&D goes into 10mm because it's not a major service weapon choice these days...but 175 grain Silvertips will do just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MitchellCT View Post
    175 grain Winchester Silvertip is the best of breed in 10mm.

    Been around a long time, and will be because it works.

    Not a lot of R&D goes into 10mm because it's not a major service weapon choice these days...but 175 grain Silvertips will do just fine.
    I will try and get a box of them too. I over looked them originally because they didn't stack up well on paper but I will throw them back in the mix.
    Thanks all for the info keep it coming!

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    I don't think it's gonna matter one iota to the person in front of the 10mm bullet. I'd steer clear of any ammo with names like "Devastator" or "man stopper" at those may not look good if presented to a jury.
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