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    Hi all,

    This forum has been a great source of information for me (as a new gun owner). Now I have a couple questions of my own I wondered if I could get some feedback on.

    Gun in question is a Glock 17 with 1000 rds through it. Here are its bad habits.

    1. It has decided to start ejecting brass directly at my face. I gave it a sharp slap on the muzzle and told it no, but it persists. Yesterday, an ejected case manged to hit me in the forehead and then fall behind my safety glasses. The glasses held the case against my face for a few seconds before I got them off and now I have a lovely burn. It looks like I got clocked in the eye. I'm telling my co-workers my girlfriend beats me. Is the moral that safety equipment is too dangerous to use?

    2. No issues first 900 rds then two malfunctions yesterday. First was a stovepipe and the second was.. Well I was hoping you could tell me? How the heck did it end up in this position?
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    I'd say the ejector is out of wack and not sending the brass out the side properly. I'm not a smith though so this is just my guess. Have a glock armorer look at it or call Glock and they'll look at it. Show them this picture and I'm sure they'll take it and fix it up. I know my friend had an old Gen 2 G17 with a bulge in the barrel that he wanted to get looked at in case it was going to be a problem. He didn't know the history of the internals so he called Glock. After he got the gun back it had everything replaced inside. Basically got a new gun. I figured it's so cheap and easy to swap out all the parts and springs and test fire rather than try to diagnose any possible issue. On a 1911 maybe not, but a Glock is a very simple design by comparison.
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    give the gun a good cleaning

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofagun View Post
    Hi all,

    This forum has been a great source of information for me (as a new gun owner). Now I have a couple questions of my own I wondered if I could get some feedback on.

    Gun in question is a Glock 17 with 1000 rds through it. Here are its bad habits.

    1. It has decided to start ejecting brass directly at my face. I gave it a sharp slap on the muzzle and told it no, but it persists. Yesterday, an ejected case manged to hit me in the forehead and then fall behind my safety glasses. The glasses held the case against my face for a few seconds before I got them off and now I have a lovely burn. It looks like I got clocked in the eye. I'm telling my co-workers my girlfriend beats me. Is the moral that safety equipment is too dangerous to use?

    2. No issues first 900 rds then two malfunctions yesterday. First was a stovepipe and the second was.. Well I was hoping you could tell me? How the heck did it end up in this position?
    Looks like a weak recoil spring, or light load in the round not allowing for enough force to eject the empty case, or possibly worn ejector or a combination of both. Was the weapon new when you bought it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofagun View Post
    Hi all,

    This forum has been a great source of information for me (as a new gun owner). Now I have a couple questions of my own I wondered if I could get some feedback on.

    Gun in question is a Glock 17 with 1000 rds through it. Here are its bad habits.

    1. It has decided to start ejecting brass directly at my face. I gave it a sharp slap on the muzzle and told it no, but it persists. Yesterday, an ejected case manged to hit me in the forehead and then fall behind my safety glasses. The glasses held the case against my face for a few seconds before I got them off and now I have a lovely burn. It looks like I got clocked in the eye. I'm telling my co-workers my girlfriend beats me. Is the moral that safety equipment is too dangerous to use?

    2. No issues first 900 rds then two malfunctions yesterday. First was a stovepipe and the second was.. Well I was hoping you could tell me? How the heck did it end up in this position?
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    You must have gotten a left handed glock
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    Looks like a 9mm problem to me.
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    I'd get a new ejector, ejector spring, and recoil spring.

    Fortunately, Glock parts are pretty much all drop-in so it should be an easy fix. Do some drills with snap caps, and if satisfied, take it to the range.

    Hope you get it back up and running soon!

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    I always wear a hat. I caught hot brass the same way that you did, but mine was from the guy on my left at an outdoor range. Lesson learned.

    I'd swap out the ejector which comes as one unit in the trigger housing mechanism. You may want to get a new extractor as well. Or at least clean it out well, there may be some debris caught under the piece that grabs the rim.

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    IMHO, it's not an ejector problem, as the ejector is a fixed stationary part that just plays dumb until a casing gets smacked up against it. Unless it somehow got bent, I'd look elsewhere.

    It's possible that the extractor is a touch weak and not holding the case tight enough to really smack the case against the ejector, sending it flying.

    In almost every failure I've seen of this type, if not a weak ejector, it was weak ammo, riding the slide with your thumb, or an extremely dirty weapon. Anything that slows the slide down will cause your problem. If the gun only has 900 rounds through it, I would seriously doubt it was an extractor/ejector problem. But I guess anything could break, even on a Glock. (did I just say that?)

    My G17 has about 5000 rounds through it, and the ONLY hiccup was when I tried some of the yellow box UMC 250 pak stuff. It was noticeably weaker than my other ammo, and switching back to Winchester during the same range session proved my problem was caused by the weaker UMC "range" ammo.
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    That was a 9mm round manufactured for the Polish Defense Force.

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    Quick question for you -- have you taken it apart any further than the minimum necessary for cleaning since that 900th problem free round?

    I ask because my bf followed online (youtube) instructions for how to install a NY1 trigger and in the process of taking it down to the trigger level, and reassembling it, managed to improperly position the extractor/ejector.

    The result, for me and my beloved Glock 22 (.40 S&W, full size) was that we had perhaps 87 of 100 rounds go foul at the range the next time we went. Turns out, failure-to-fires come in several different versions. I got LOTS of them that looked like your photo that day.

    If you haven't taken down your Glock any further than just removing the slide and spring for cleaning, in my own also-newbie opinion, get thee to a Glock Armorer. If you have taken it down... e.g., removed and reinstalled your ejector lever, I would recommend that you spend some time either a) going to a glock armorer and making him/her fix it or b) watching youtube videos until you see one which adequately demonstrates for you how to properly install your ejector.

    I personally was able to fix the problem myself, once I got home from the range. Haven't had an issue since.

    Good luck to you.
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    How the heck do you improperly install a extractor/ejector on a glock? Can't put a square peg into a round hole.

    To the op, I would remove the extractor and clean out the hole it sits in. Probably replace the extractor spring while your at it. If the ejector isn't bent, or missing, wouldn't think that was the problem.

    Christ. Didn't have my glasses on. Didn't see that the casing somehow flipped up,out, and back into the gun.

    My new suggestion is that you box it up, and sell it to me for a few hundred bucks.
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    easy fella, he just needs to plant it in the ground and hope it grows something better.
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    Never happened it's a Glock and a setup....he actually carries a Taurus

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