Difference in round count between Kimbers and Springers

Difference in round count between Kimbers and Springers

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    Difference in round count between Kimbers and Springers

    I've never owned an SA 1911 so this might be a dumb question...

    Reading Rollo's most recent thread about his choice between the Springer Compact Operator and the Kimber Pro Carry led me to SA's website. I noticed that on what I thought were full size 1911's it listed the mag capacity as 7 rounds...not 8. So I looked at the micro-compact, which I understand to be the officer's frame, and it's round count is 6. Why is that? I thought the full size frame 1911, regardless of manufacturer, gave you an 8 round mag and the officer's frame a 7 round mag.

    I own a Kimber Ultra, officer's size frame, and it uses 7 round mags. So if I'm understanding this correctly, Kimber's Ultras, for example, have a height of 4.75" with a 7 round mag. And Springers Micros have a height of 5" with a 6 round mag. Taller with one less round doesn't sound right, which is why I am asking the question.

    What am I misunderstanding here?
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    Back when life was simpler... the "standard" mag capacity for full-size and Commander-length 1911s was 7 rounds.

    A generation ago, Colt brought out the Officer's Model. With its abbreviated grip length, its necessarily shorter magazine had a capacity of 6 rounds.

    Necessity is the Mother of Invention, Nature Abhors a Vacuum, etc... now we have magazines with springs and followers that allow an extra round in the same size "package" as before. Thus there are 8-round mags for the 4" and 5" 1911s, and 7-round mags for the OMs and derivative models that use the short grip.

    Some manufacturers choose to provide the higher-capacity mags with their guns, others stick to the standard capacity. Springfield, in particular, stays on the conservative side with their magazines.

    Does that help?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    Back when life was simpler... the "standard" mag capacity for full-size and Commander-length 1911s was 7 rounds.

    A generation ago, Colt brought out the Officer's Model. With its abbreviated grip length, its necessarily shorter magazine had a capacity of 6 rounds.

    Necessity is the Mother of Invention, Nature Abhors a Vacuum, etc... now we have magazines with springs and followers that allow an extra round in the same size "package" as before. Thus there are 8-round mags for the 4" and 5" 1911s, and 7-round mags for the OMs and derivative models that use the short grip.

    Some manufacturers choose to provide the higher-capacity mags with their guns, others stick to the standard capacity. Springfield, in particular, stays on the conservative side with their magazines.

    Does that help?
    Absolutely...got it.

    So I could use my 7 round officer's mags for my Kimber Ultra in a SA Micro Compact?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPCleary View Post
    Absolutely...got it.

    So I could use my 7 round officer's mags for my Kimber Ultra in a SA Micro Compact?
    Indeed, and you can buy and use aftermarket mags such as Tripp and Wilson mags!

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