Question of self-defense

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    Question of self-defense

    One question:
    Used anyone in the United States gas alarm weapons for self defense?
    In Germany do that many!

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    Could you explain " gas alarm weapon " ?
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    GUTTEN TAG! and willkommen to DefensiveCarry.

    I am not sure what you are referring to when you ask about gas alarms for self-defense.

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    There are pistols or revolvers use up the cartridges are filled with gas or pepper.
    They are used for self defense or for New Year's Eve to shoot fireworks in the air.
    This is very funny and very loud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Generalmajor View Post
    One question:
    Used anyone in the United States gas alarm weapons for self defense?
    In Germany do that many!

    By gas alarm weapon do you mean mace/tear gas/OC spray?
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    not quite...
    OC, CN or CS in cartridges for firing with this weapons!

    Is that in the usa so unknown?

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    I'm curious, do you have any pictures of weapons like this?

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    Some of my arms...
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    Welcome to Defensive Carry.

    Are you saying all the guns shown in the pic are gas alarm weapons?

    Also, if you need to shoot in self-defense what would you aim at, i.e. head, COM?

    What is the effective range?

    What is the likelihood that it stops the attacker?

    Lastly, what if the BG has a real gun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangle View Post
    Welcome to Defensive Carry.

    Are you saying all the guns shown in the pic are gas alarm weapons?
    Yes, all!

    The range is about 4 meters.
    You shoot in the face and best with OC.
    In the cartridge is 120mg OC. This is really very effective.
    It is also suitable for use in animal defenses. Add to that the loud bang.
    Out of the barrel comes 450 bar

    A shot in the head or the heart is deadly.
    If anyone has a real weapon, then you should run better.
    In Germany, each have a gas gun when he was 18 years old.
    For a real weapon, it is very difficult.

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    Welcome to the forum!

    I have heard of these. Think of a shotshell, in concept, but filled with an irritant instead of lead shot. These are not popular in the USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rexster View Post
    Welcome to the forum!

    I have heard of these. Think of a shotshell, in concept, but filled with an irritant instead of lead shot. These are not popular in the USA.
    What do you think is in the Czech Republic allowed, but not in Germany.
    And it works with rubber bullets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Augrunt View Post
    Yoda?

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    If I am reading this correctly (and I just searched some German sites to try and make it a bit clearer), I think an Alarmpistole would be a starter's pistol, meaning a gun that is designed to fire blanks and has some sort of obstructed barrel to prevent it from firing bullets.

    A Gas/Alarm-pistole seems to be a starter's gun variant where the blank cartridge can fire, as the OP stated, some types of OC or other gas. Obviously, there are well-documented cases of people being killed by contact or near-contact shots from blank guns, and mounted SASS shooters break balloons at several paces firing blanks from their revolvers.

    To Generalmajor's question, though---no, I don't think folks use those here in the States. For one thing, anything that looks like a gun tends to be regulated like a gun, so it's easier just to get a regular OC dispenser of some type than a gun-shaped OC dispenser.
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