This is a discussion on Been thinking about a 45 lately within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by GM 8+1 rounds in a Commander sized 1911. Buy which manufacturer? I've been looking for a 4" 1911 with 8 round mag ...
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Gotta throw the Glock 36 out there as one to look at too!
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Sig 220 Carry.
I'm thinking about getting a 220 Carry Elite Dark myself.
All major 1911 manufacturers have "commander" length slide options they just don't all call them that... I am a Springfield guy and they call them "champion" I would look at the lightweight loaded champion or the operator champion. They'll have the night sights, tunings, and extras out of the box. Mine is a lightweight full size weighs around 40 oz loaded, the G30 would be about 34 loaded. The working width wear your belt goes on a 1911 is less than .9 inches, the G30 is 1.25"... Since you don't have either, I would shoot the G30 and if you like it go with it. My issue is I have a 1911 shoot it well, am comfortable with it... haven't shot G30, the ones I've held don't feel just right in my hand (though I haven't shot it) and is 2 rounds worth spending 500+ $ I don't have right now... eaither way I think you'll do fine but don't forget about the Sig line, XD, etc... worth a look!
I love my Glocks as much as anyone, but a 1911 is in a class above IMO.
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Shoot what's best for you. I have no problem with 7+1 in my Officer UCII or 8+1 or 10+1(*chip power ten mag) in my full size Stainless II. In a CQB situation if you're say 3000 rounds of training and range time through a G30 it is a great great SD pistol. I'd love to have a G30 in the collection I just can't figure which Glock to get first, I'm very interested in one of the 10mm's. I use my girls G23 and it shoots pretty decent(combat accurate) after getting use to it. The 1911 though shoots with more precision and carries comfortably especially with a Aluminum framed one. I'm sure a MTAC will swallow a G30 easily. No matter which one you get make sure to carry at least one extra mag because all guns jam even the reliable Glock. Either can be limp-wristed in a scuffel. Be safe.
A ton of votes for a 1911 here.
In the early 80's, as a young buck Sgt in the Army, they handed me what I think was a 1911 to guard a prisoner...all I remember now is that it was a 45. I'll have to take a look because it's a pistol I haven't considered.
My price range is under 600.00. The gun will be strictly for concealed carry so, reliablity is the number one priority. The xd series in the 4 inch barrel sounds nice...so does the G30 and G36.
I am definitely very comfy with my G19...one in the pipe at all times.
I'm going to rent,borrow,handle what I can in the 45cal and go from there.
"Everybody's got a plan, 'til they get hit".
There are a ton of quality 1911's out there.
I like Kimbers myself, but Springfield, Colt, and many others are equally great !
You can't go wrong with a 1911.
The G36 carries exactly like the G19. Most holsters will work with either one. The G30 has similar dimensions to the G19 but is a bit thicker. In 1911s for carry, I like the CCO size. Commander length slide & Officer's grip frame. For $600, I'd go Glock over the 1911 though.
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Man! I'm glad I'm not having to make a decision about which .45 to buy - with all the great suggestions, I'd be as confused as before.
However, I really like the M&P .45. But the trigger is not what it could be and may be difficult to master. I have a Sig 220 Carry - fine gun, several 1911s - fine guns but a bit heavy in steel.
Now for the dirty part - the Sig 250. If you buy it in .45, you can go to any caliber in any size by purchasing a $375 kit. I have a full size P250 .45, I'm thinking I'll get the 9mm full size kit. Practice a lot with 9mm, switch to the .45 version using the very same trigger group for both. Just hard to beat that.
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Ruger P345... always goes bang, fits like a glove. Only 8+1, but as far as stopping potential, should equal or excede 17+1 of 9mm.
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