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You've already got a Glock, and a good one at that.
Given your price range, check out a RIA or Taurus 1911, or a milspec Springfield.
1911s don't require a doctorate to operate; they're very intuitive, and their single action triggers have yet to be rivaled.
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"A heavily armed citizenry is not about overthrowing the government; it is about preventing the government from overthrowing liberty. A people stripped of their right of self defense is defenseless against their own government." -source
I've never heard anyone that was in a gunfight say that they wish they had carried less ammo.
And it can be carried cocked and locked and SA like a 1911, or DA first shot with no safety. And it's fully ambi. It's quite a pistol.
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One more vote for the Glock-36 here...
If you just pick one up, the grip WILL surprise you. My nephew-in-law is a cop and carries a Glock-19. When he picked up my Glock-36, he had this stunned look on his face and said, "This is a .45?"
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Oh boy...1911 vs Glock, 9mm vs .45 ACP...
Really, you already have one of the finest combat guns made in your G19. Maybe spend the money on practice and professional training? Just an idea.
The math has been done by the IWBA...a .45 has a 4-7% chance of just nicking something vital that a 9mm barely misses. If you feel that is worth the trade-off in terms of ammo capacity, cost of practice ammo, speed of follow-up shots, etc - then get the .45.
Me? I'm quite happy with 9mm. "The only time you can have too much ammo is when you are drowning or on fire."
As far as the much-discussed grip width and overall width of the 1911 vs the Glock...I put a G26 next to a RIA 1911 at the gun store a few weeks ago. The grip on the 1911 was WIDER than the grip on the Glock. The difference is in the cross-section - the Glock grip is more of a rectangle, while the 1911 grip is more of an oval. The 1911 FEELS slimmer, but it is NOT. Factor in the safety levers, and a 1911 is no slimmer overall than a Glock.
You are also used to the manual-of-arms of the Glock. If you really want to get a .45, I would suggest a .45 Glock, or similar striker-fired pistol.
Good luck, and shoot before you buy!
Last edited by 10thmtn; July 16th, 2010 at 10:14 AM.
The number of people killed because they didn't have "enough gun" is dwarfed by those who had none at all. Get a gun you will always carry, and add more capability as you grow.
I have recently purchased 2 45's. One is the Rock island 1911 CS (3.5 in barrel) and a S&W 45 1911 with 5 inch barrel. I have always wanted a 1911 platform and the truth is, if you buy one, you WILL buy another. The RI has been 100% performer and seems to be the best buy in a 1911 format. I know folks say they are "cheap" but I prefer the term inexpensive. It goes bang every time I pull the trigger which in my main objective. The 1911 platform is totally sexy to me (e.g. great looking weapon) and life is to short to go through it with an ugly gun...lol. Glocks are perfectly fine weapon systems and you couldnt go wrong with one of them. Choice is a great thing and hunting for a weapon is part of the fun. I wish you well.
I was always a wheel gun guy until about 15 years ago. Now it is a 1911 in condition one. My choice is for a Kimber Ultra CDP II 45acp or 9mm I have both.also carry at times a Kimber Eclipse Custom II. Which ever one I carry will be in a Milt Sparks VM II holster on a Beltman belt. Had some Glocks ,they are good shooters,but not as accurate,for me anyway, as my 1911's.Still have a G26 that will be sold.Also have a Kimber Pro Raptor II stainless on order.
I've spent some dough on defensive/tactical handgun classes but, I want more.
In the end, i'll probably end up with a Glock or a similar platform mostly because of simplicity of operation, familiarity and price.
The G19 is my first and only gun. It came highly recomended by my first instructor when I knew zero about the subject. He listened well when I explained why I wanted to carry.
As I move slowly through the process, I'm very confident that he was dead on and that is a good feeling.
"Everybody's got a plan, 'til they get hit".
There is nothing wrong with owning and being proficient with multiple weapon platforms and calibers. I suggest it. I rotate carry of my glocks, revolvers, BHP, and 1911. Whatever I feel like for that day. I also train with all of them. But if it came down to me having to grab one handgun, it is going to be my G29SF.
for self defense and after trying many firearms, If glock 19 was the only firearm I could have, i'd be happy, but of course I want more
I have a Kimber Custom II TLE/RL and a G30. My vote for SD for you is a G30 for the following reasons:
1. Simple manual of arms. You already own a Glock. No new manual of arms to learn. Glocks are simple by design. 1911's a bit more to learn and remember in a SD situation. ie thumb safety
2. Reliability and simplicity. Some 1911 weapons can be finicky about ammo and maintenance Glocks not so much
3. Cost. G30 wins over most good 1911.s ie Kimber Colt, SA etc. A G30 fits your 600 dollar budget for the moist part.
4. G21 mags can be used for a 13 +1 capacity
5. G30 is a bit blockier in feel but not a deal breaker IMO. G30 weight be less than an all steel 1911.. Lightweight 1911's cost more.
6. G19 and G30 similar in size except G30 slightly wider
Consider the G30SF as well. slightly smaller grip.
If the above are not compelling reasons, go for a good 1911. I love my Kimber but a G30 fits your needs better IMO.
My .02 YMMV.