How Snubby and Why?

How Snubby and Why?

This is a discussion on How Snubby and Why? within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I'm considering my first wheelie: the M&P 360 3-inch barrel with a shrouded (Bodyguard) hammer. Snubbies have their advantages. How much does a 3-inch barrel ...

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    How Snubby and Why?

    I'm considering my first wheelie: the M&P 360 3-inch barrel with a shrouded (Bodyguard) hammer.
    Snubbies have their advantages.
    How much does a 3-inch barrel sacrifice snubby advantage for more accurracy and longer powder burn for muzzle energy?
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    I believe that the 3" - 3-1/2" bbl is a good compromise between concealibility and accuracy/velocity. Then again the wheelies I have carried (27, 3-1/2", GP100, 3" are not considered "snubbys" or belly guns.

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    I just bought a Ruger SP101 and had the option of a 2", 3", or 4" barrel. I chose the 3" for a bit longer sight radius, but no problem for CC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hudsonvalley View Post
    Don't forget what these are for....up close and personal...God forbid....

    That said, for the purpose of close-quarter self defense, from getting the revolver into the fight, its presentation, through neutralizing a threat less than two arms' lengths away, what issues do you consider in comparing a two-inch barrel to a three-inch barrel?

    Are you saying that three inches is too long for some situations?
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    Incremental Advantage

    There is clearly a difference between a 3 inch revolver and one with 2 or 2.5 inch barrel. The longer gun gives you somewhat more muzzle velocity with given ammo, and a slightly longer sight radius for aiming. It will also weigh a little more and balance differently. I would guess that in most defensive uses of the snubby that barrel length difference won't really effect the outcome of the incident. But it might help you a little bit in some cases.

    Personally I don't worry about it. I have model 66 snubbies in 2.5 and 3.0 inches, and I usually carry the shorter one. I find that I can shoot both lengths with equal accuracy and the 3 incher is more valuable and sort of a safe queen.

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    I use pocket, or ankle, carry with my 2 inch snubbies. My 3 inchers go on the belt.

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    I think if its gonna be a multiple duty revo, for instance HD, range, and CC, then the 3" is a good middle ground. If its gonna be CC only, I don't really think the little extra bit of barrel is gonna matter much shooting someone at 10'.
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    2" or 3" really comes down to intended use(s) and personal preference. In SD distances, either will work just fine.
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    The 3"s are definitely not pocket guns. I like the ability to wear on the belt or in my pocket.
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    If it has a 3" barrel then it's not a Snubbie. The 3" barrel simply makes it a revolver with a barrel too long for it to be termed a snubbie.
    Just my personal opinion on that.
    If you want it for up close and personal self-defense then there is no advantage to having the longer barrel especially with the low muzzle flash SD ammo available today.
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    I agree with several of the other members here, you realistically will not see much improvement in performance between the 2 or 2.5" vs. 3" but it WILL make a difference in comfort and methods of carry. As for performance, with the recent introduction of the various rounds designed specifically for short barreled revolvers there really isn't much reason I personally wouldn't go with the shorter barrel. I routinely carry either a S&W 442 or a customized Colt Agent, and with the aforementioned rounds I certainly have no problems with performance at realistic ranges if I do my part. Best regards-John

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    I've got a Smith Model 60 2 inch with CT grips and love it. The laser allows me to put rounds where I want, and I don't worry about the short barrel affecting accuracy: I figure any attack on my person will happen at close range.. I put the pistol in my pocket in a pocket holster in the summer time and forget it's there. I practice with 38 and carry 357. With only five rounds I want the first shot to do a lot of damage.
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    pogo2,

    Not sure whats nicer. Your pair of 66s or your photography.

    To the OP, as other members have commented, accuracy at CQB distances will be negligible between a snubbie and a 3" revolver. Ease of concealment will be virtually identical.
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    I love my J-frame. Perfect for what I use it for: Pocket carry when I'm not able (or willing) to carry the XD. Very easy for me to point-shoot at reasonable SD ranges.

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