I need a pocket or smaller gun

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    I need a pocket or smaller gun

    I moved from the land of Milk and Honey (also known as Tennessee) to the land of jerks and horrible drivers (also known as Indiana) a few months ago. In Tennessee, and good Lord how I miss Tennessee, Open Carry was fairly common at least where I lived in Shelby County. Didn't really have to worry about concealing too much. But here, even though OC is legal, it seems to be very, very uncommon.

    So, I appear to be in the market for a small and very easily concealable carry gun. I will not go lower than a 9mm, and .40 would be best. I currently carry a Glock 23 every day now. But something flat, easily concealed in a pocket or IWB holster would be great. I am OK with single stack. The only thing I am not open to would be a Taurus or other low quality hand gun. (Sorry you Taurus fans out there. I am not a fan and I am not going to become one no matter how great your Taurus gun is)

    I am leaning towards a Ruger SR9 sub compact. I'd like to hear from anyone who has one. And from anyone out there who has another gun to recommend.

    Educate me please.
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    IMO, the Ruger SR9 is not a pocket gun. The only 9mm that fits in a majority of pants is the Rohrbaugh. The only problem is that it's very expensive and not readily available. The next closest "pocket" gun is the Kahr PM9, which I don't find comfortable in most pants.

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    You might look at the CZ Rami. Available in both 9mm and .40. Dimensions appear about the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tokerblue View Post
    IMO, the Ruger SR9 is not a pocket gun. The only 9mm that fits in a majority of pants is the Rohrbaugh. The only problem is that it's very expensive and not readily available. The next closest "pocket" gun is the Kahr PM9, which I don't find comfortable in most pants.
    Bingo Rohrbaugh or PM9.....unless you have some really big pockets. Then maybe a baby Glock would be the way to go.
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    A SIG 238 380 fits in the front pocket in a pocket holster and shoots straight! Dennis
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    The Kahr PM9 and PM40 are you only viable options (that meet your criteria) unless you want a Kel-Tec PF9.
    Last edited by JD; August 17th, 2010 at 01:01 AM.

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    I am posting this photo of some of my carry guns so you can see the comparative sizes of these handguns. Here is my opinion, everybody has one, but mine is based off facts that are based on extensive personal first hand experience with these guns. Keep that in mind. My PM9 has about 600-700 rounds through it and I have not had one problem or failure of any kind, none, nada, as in zero. CZ Rami, works every time I pull the trigger. I did send it in to CZ and had them polish the feed ramp and throat and guess what, they did it for free. G26......hey its a Glock, nuf said. The 642 is a Smith J frame and they are the most widely carried revolvers for a reason.....they are just very very good.



    I would say the PM9 or the J frame Smiths are the gun that most closely meets your criteria. The Rami and G26 are outstanding but not really pocket handguns.

    And I am so sorry you had to leave Rocky Top, and go out of the Mason Dixion line states where living is good and people live free. I don't except rude behavior myself......so I stay in the south mostly.
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    Pocket: S&W 442, only if you don't classify a .38 +P lower than a 9mm.... I like it because I can carry it in my front pocket and still put all 5 center mass.

    Small 9mm: Glock G26, or a Springfield XD 9sc... both are great guns and work in OWB or IWB holster.
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    Another one for the PM9, PM40.
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    A small S&W revolver could solve your problems for pocket carry. A .38 would be enough firepower.IMHO
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    Why not get a good concealment holster and belt and carry what you allready have. I wear an untucked shirt 1 size larger than I normally wear and you can't tell I have a full size gun under it. It's all about dressing around the gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TN_Mike View Post
    I moved from the land of Milk and Honey (also known as Tennessee) to the land of jerks and horrible drivers (also known as Indiana) a few months ago. In Tennessee, and good Lord how I miss Tennessee, Open Carry was fairly common at least where I lived in Shelby County. Didn't really have to worry about concealing too much. But here, even though OC is legal, it seems to be very, very uncommon.

    So, I appear to be in the market for a small and very easily concealable carry gun. I will not go lower than a 9mm, and .40 would be best. I currently carry a Glock 23 every day now. But something flat, easily concealed in a pocket or IWB holster would be great. I am OK with single stack. The only thing I am not open to would be a Taurus or other low quality hand gun. (Sorry you Taurus fans out there. I am not a fan and I am not going to become one no matter how great your Taurus gun is)

    I am leaning towards a Ruger SR9 sub compact. I'd like to hear from anyone who has one. And from anyone out there who has another gun to recommend.

    Educate me please.
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    BTW, my vote goes to the PM9 (alternative the PM40).
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    Pocket carry is rather limiting. IWB opens up lots of options.

    For pocket carry, I found the PM9 a tad on the heavy side. The .380s (LCP, DB 380, Sig P238) are really better suited to that role.

    If you have large pockets, a light weight revolver is also an option - but they are much larger than the .380 pistols.

    I feel well armed with a LCP. I gave up on the caliber wars a long time ago - use a bullet that penetrates, and put them where they count. Load it with FMJ-FPs, or alternate with JHPs if you want...done. Sometimes, I carry two LCPs, and hardly notice they're on me.
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    Your post says IWB or pocket... IWB gives a lot more options. Besides the linear dimensions of the pistol, the weight is a factor in pocket carry. JMO, but if you've a heavy pistol in some slacks, or similar, the weight will throw off the balance of your clothing and may appear out of place.

    For pocket duty, I've got an LCP.
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    Thanks for the great replies everyone.

    Pirate, I especially appreciate your info as you have real experience with the guns you mentioned. I also liked the size comparison photo. Thanks.

    I am broadening my search now after listening to all of you. Great info! Thanks!

    Now, can anyone suggest a good, comfortable, IWB holster for any of the guns discussed? How about for a Glock 23, since that is already my EDC and, my favorite carry gun of all time.
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