Kind of embarassing (M&P Sight Picture)

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    Kind of embarassing (M&P Sight Picture)

    Well....now I'm just annoyed lol. I had the DCAEK kit installed on my M&P and raved about how much I loved it. I went to the range today to give her a go with the new trigger..... bang, high and right.....bang, high and right.....bang high and right. Until I had a nice baseball size whole above my target after 50 rounds. I shot 200 rounds today, all were high and right, or just plain high.

    Before the trigger job, I was DEAD center, EVERY shot. Now after the trigger I am constantly too high, and too far to the right. What is the correct sight picture for the M&P and around 7-10 yards? Does a better trigger yield the responses? Ummm...

    Also, could the rear sight have been placed back incorrectly? Maybe making me shoot to the right? But that wouldn't explain the too high aspect.....
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    The trigger job shouldn't make any difference in the mechanical operation but will be a learning curve for you. My bet would be when you replaced the rear sight, you somehow didn't get it seated flush on the slide. If it's raised any then this will cause you to shoot high. Check that first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by claybreaker0 View Post
    Well....now I'm just annoyed lol. I had the DCAEK kit installed on my M&P and raved about how much I loved it. I went to the range today to give her a go with the new trigger..... bang, high and right.....bang, high and right.....bang high and right. Until I had a nice baseball size whole above my target after 50 rounds. I shot 200 rounds today, all were high and right, or just plain high.

    Before the trigger job, I was DEAD center, EVERY shot. Now after the trigger I am constantly too high, and too far to the right. What is the correct sight picture for the M&P and around 7-10 yards? Does a better trigger yield the responses? Ummm...

    Also, could the rear sight have been placed back incorrectly? Maybe making me shoot to the right? But that wouldn't explain the too high aspect.....
    Most likely the poor shooting is you. I don't think there would be any reason to remove the rear sight with regards to the APEX install. Just take a few more shots and think about your breathing and trigger work.
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    You need to remove the rear sight to install the striker block in the DCAEK kit. You may have it slightly drifted to the right. Just look at it from the top and be sure it's centered, then tighten down the set screw. Shooting high has to be you since there's no way you can adjust for elevation, even on accident.

    The proper sight picture for the M&P is to hold the front sight over the target, not the 6 o'clock hold. You should see less bounce in the front of the gun with the DCAEK kit over standard. Bench rest the gun at 3 yards and see where you hit, then slowly move it out from there. I imagine the elevation is just you, and like the shooting right is as well, but likely the sight was drifted to the right when reinstalled, but I'd need to run the gun to say for sure!

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    Have some one else shoot it to see if it is you or the gun.
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    If the sights are OK, then...

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    I always thought the above graphic was for 1 handed competition shooting, not 2 handed shooting where you have pressure from the support hand

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    I agree with most of what I'm reading. From my experience as a Trainer, it's most likely the shooter. You've probably trained yourself to compensate a certain amount for your flinch.

    Go back to the basics and slowly squeeze off rounds letting the gun go off every time and have somebody else shoot the gun to verify zero.

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    You got used to the original trigger. Check your rear sight as mentioned already and then take time getting used to the new trigger. Trigger control is one of the biggest causes of shooting off target.
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    You don't mention using a bench rest, so I assume it's being tested with your standard grip and stance (assumptions are often wrong, though). Just thinking that you might eliminate some variables if the gun was in a fixed position. It might help isolate the issue.

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    I had a tendency to pull down as I squeezed the trigger on my .44 super red hawk. ( 4.5 pull.) after having the trigger reworked I no longer have that tendency. Maybe??? Just a thought.
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