The Wife test Drove Some Pocket Guns Today

The Wife Test Drove Some Pocket Guns Today

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    The Wife test Drove Some Pocket Guns Today

    So she currently carries a SP101 in .357, but she complains that it gets heavy by the end of the day. With this in mind, we went to the LGS to try a few .380 pocket guns.

    First up was the Ruger LCP. Initially she was afraid to try it because it was so small, and she isn't a fan of recoil. But, she ran a couple of mag's through it, aburtnd decided that she liked it. On about the 4th mag, right after she put the rounds in the mag, they all puked out followed by the follower. Live rounds all over the floor in front of the firing line, and the mag follower was at her feet. The RSO apologized, tried it himself and the same thing happened. He went back to see if they had another mag, but they did not.

    Next up was a S&W Bodyguard .380 with integrated laser. The laser battery was dead, and again the RSO apologized. She ran a few mags through it, but she wasn't a fan. When she got her offhand thumb too high and got some slide bite, that sealed the deal.

    Lastly was a Kahr P380 that the RSO offered due to the problems we encountered. She liked it quite a bit, and was pretty accurate with it. She suffered no failures at all, the gun performed flawlessly.

    Keep in mind before bashing the LCP or the S&W that these are range rental guns that get abused, and probably don't get cleaned as often as they should.

    Anyhow, we are seriously looking at the P380 (despite the 4 page thread about the failure one buyer encountered). We will probably go back and try the Sig P238 before making a final decision.
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    Good that you have a range where you can try them before you buy. I think you're onto the right track. Try the Sig p238 next, but also keep in mind the other guns LCP and Bodyguard were range guns. I've never head of such a problem with the LCP magazines on the forum here. It had to be a magazine plate that slipped off somehow. New magazine or whatever and that's fixed. She liked it. Give it another try. It's almost half the price of the Kahr P380. Don't get me wrong. I have two Kahr's and like them (cw9 and pm9), but that's a high price for .380 pocket gun. The bodyguard, I don't know enough about them, but the laser being out is because, .... well... it's a range gun and "everybody" uses the laser because it's there. Burned out the battery.

    I have a feeling she would be happy with an LCP if she really liked the one she shot.

    I have one. My wife likes it. Great little gun. Probably will never get rid of it, just because of what it is. Reliable, inexpensive, light, small, and easy to stick in the pocket.
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    She liked the LCP, but liked the P380 more. It wasn't the mag plate that came off, but the follower somehow got past the lips and followed the rounds to the floor. Strange.

    The Sig and the Kahr are quite a bit more than the LCP I will admit. But, I don't mind paying for quality. I was very tempted to pick up the LCP regardless because the store had them on sale for $249. That seems to be a pretty good price, and I may still pick it up.
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    Don't be afraid to go with the LCP that was definitely a well abused range gun. I've put mine through its paces and it performs flawlessly, don't forget these little pocket pistols are meant to be carried much more than they are shot.

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    Never heard of a Keltec p3at having that problem either. Just a thought?

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    The LCP is a great deal at $249. I paid $329 for mine, and I have seen them for as high as $399.

    That said, I've had an LCP for a little while, it's my wife's EDC. But, I recently picked up a j-frame. A 442-1, to be exact. At only 15 ozs, it's barely heavier than the LCP, and about 10 ozs less than the SP101.

    I will grab the 442 over the LCP any day, everyday. But that's just me
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    Give the Sig 238 a shot.
    It has minimal recoil, the slide locks back, it can be purchased with night sights, it looks good, slide is easy to rack. All good things for a woman, and a bunch of men too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CT-Mike View Post
    She liked the LCP, but liked the P380 more. It wasn't the mag plate that came off, but the follower somehow got past the lips and followed the rounds to the floor. Strange.

    The Sig and the Kahr are quite a bit more than the LCP I will admit. But, I don't mind paying for quality. I was very tempted to pick up the LCP regardless because the store had them on sale for $249. That seems to be a pretty good price, and I may still pick it up.
    I tried the LCP, Kel-tec and eventually paid the extra to get the P380. First 200 rounds have satisfied my confidence in the reliability. I'm sure the LCP is great also, just liked the Kahr trigger better.

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    I'd also have a look at the Bersa Thunder 380, I've had one for about 6 months and just finally took it to the range to get some rounds through it so I could carry it, first 7 shots out of the box were center target at 7 yards, all within an inch or 2 of each other. Put 100 rounds through it with no failures.

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    As long as it's a firearm that SHE has picked out, she'll be happy. Personally, I think the Ruger she had was the winner!
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    Good idea on letting make this decision. Hopefully you will have good luck with it and she will never need another pocket pistol again.

    While I like the Ruger Sp101 I found it to be a little to heavy for everyday carry.

    How about renting some LW snubies since she is already used to carring one?

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    I wouldn't be afraid of the LCP and $249 is a very good price. I have over 1,000 flawless rounds through my LCP. But that being said I would suggest the P380 over the LCP due to the better fit and finish, actually having usable sights (night sights optional on top of that), and lock back on empty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    As long as it's a firearm that SHE has picked out, she'll be happy. Personally, I think the Ruger she had was the winner!
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    She likes the SP101 and still has it, but she feels that it gets too heavy by the end of the day and is causing her back pain (she has had back surgery twice), so she needs something lighter. She tried a few S&W airweight snubbies and didn't like them at all.
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    My 2 cents. Sig P238 - worst gun I ever owned, 1,400 rounds of torture. 4 trips back to Sig and it's replacement sits NIB, unfired. During that agonizing era of my like I did pick up the Kahr P380, which I carry daily. Never even bought a holster for the Sig, not even close to reliable for me. (Maybe I bought the worst one - dunno).

    Ruger LCR, my wife is been warming up to this one and no failures with it.

    Don't hear too much bad about the LCP that is for certain.

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    I own a Ruger LCP and Kahr P380. Both have been very reliable and very comfortable and easy to conceal. I tend to carry my P380 more often simply because it has a better trigger and it will fire Buffalo Bore .380 +P ammunition.

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