Non-polymer, or 1911, .45 compact options?

Non-polymer, or 1911, .45 compact options?

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    Non-polymer, or 1911, .45 compact options?

    Hello,

    What options are ther for you if you want a relatively compact, all metal .45 that isn't a 1911? Doesn't seem like theres many aside from the Sig 220 compact..


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    PARA Ordinance "Light Double Action" still being made? Looks like a 1911, but has a double action trigger.
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    S&W 4516, all metal, non 1911, very compact.
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    Bersa thunder 45 ultra compact

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    Sig P245

    The predecessor gun to the Sig P220 compact is the Sig P245, with aluminum frame. It differs from the P220 compact primarily in the absence of the useless "beavertail" feature which pokes you in the ribs when carrying. P245s are still available in the market from new to slightly used. They have an excellent reputation for reliability and accuracy, with a 3.9 inch barrel and 30 ounce weight empty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by automatic slim View Post
    S&W 4516, all metal, non 1911, very compact.
    that actually looks real nice, I just wish they still made the thing.

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    Smith 4513, 4516 or P220 compact...the P245 is also a great example
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadRunner71 View Post
    Used S&W 4566?
    Ha! I've got a 4566. I don't think I'd put it in the class of "compact." Maybe a compact Mack truck, since it's built like one!
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    Well, seems the well is pretty dried up for this particular category of pistols, what with the current domination of polymer guns, the rise of the .40, and the cost of making steel/alloy guns...

    Guess that might be why Sig killed the P245 anyway. If they made the P239 in .45 I'd be in love! However, I did find that EAA makes a steel Witness Compact in .45. Need to research, but as it's based of the CZ75 family, and I already have a PCR, that might be right up my alley! I hear bad things about EAA's customer service, but I might have to chance it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DustyBottoms View Post
    Guess that might be why Sig killed the P245 anyway. If they made the P239 in .45 I'd be in love! However, I did find that EAA makes a steel Witness Compact in .45. Need to research, but as it's based of the CZ75 family, and I already have a PCR, that might be right up my alley! I hear bad things about EAA's customer service, but I might have to chance it.
    You can still buy a near new P245. The gun is on the CA list until 2011, in both all black and two tone, so you can ship it in from anywhere in the US to your FFL. I just did this, buying it on the East Coast through Gunbroker. You can also use Auction Arms and Guns America. There are usually a few of them for sale out there if you are patient. The pricing I have seen is generally in the $550 to $700 range.

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    So, why not a 1911? I have a compact Rock Island; 3.5" barrel, 7+1 round, stable, accurate and inexpensive. What's not to like?

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    Yea i was thnking why not 1911, the EMP line is great, and the 3 compact springfields are top, cant say anthing about the rockisland... If it shoots good carry it..

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    The 1911 design is just a whole barrel of monkeys I don't think I'm ready to get into. The endless debates of what brand sucks and what doesn't, the need to replace multiple factory parts with aftermarket ones, deciding what features are necessary and what aren't, and the general quirks of the design just sort of scare me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DustyBottoms View Post
    The 1911 design is just a whole barrel of monkeys I don't think I'm ready to get into. The endless debates of what brand sucks and what doesn't, the need to replace multiple factory parts with aftermarket ones, deciding what features are necessary and what aren't, and the general quirks of the design just sort of scare me.
    Well then you are going to look a SIG's , cost is upthere,but a great pistol ... there rest out there are poly handgun these days, there nothing wrong with poly... I carry a XD.. The butt of jokes...

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