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    Need Recommendations for Carry Gun.

    Longtime lurker, new poster. I'm a long time gun owner, but only recently decided to commit to regular CC, and will be buying at least one gun (maybe a combination of two) for the purpose in the next week or so, after much research and deliberation.

    Here are my needs/wants/concerns. I'm a lefty w/small hands. I'm not overly recoil sensitive (own and shoot .357s and 1911s accurately and regularly, and no problem w/a .45 compact in the past), but while I have no problem with "strong" recoil, I can't stand extremely "snappy" recoil in a subcompact. Got rid of a G27 (.40 subcompact) a couple years ago, b/c I hated both the recoil and "block" grip on that thing. No Glocks for me.

    I want anything I'll carry to at least be a comfortable enough shooter to practice with occasionally. For reference, most "comforable" feeling grip to me is a 1911 w/slim grips.

    Either polymer, alloy or steel would be fine in the right gun. The gun is for carry, so I couldn't care less whether or not it's a "pretty" gun.

    I live in TN, and am pretty hot natured, so a heavier gun would only be an option for me to carry about 3 mo. out of the year. No jackets for me indoors, even in the dead of winter, unless the heat is out. Not only do I usu. wear light clothing, I have to work a job requiring my shirt tail tucked in. The last, but related, problem is I sweat like a pig if it's 74 degrees, so blued steel is out. I'm not morbidly obese, but do have a bit of a belly and a small "muffin top" waist, so a larger gun worn high IWB is out as well.

    Price range: No high-end custom guns (Bar-Sto, Nighthawk Custom, Wilson Combat, etc.), but no problem going over $1,000 for the right gun. $1,250-ish is my max. No "cheap" guns on the other end of the price range, but wouldn't object to several guns I know of in the $350-$500 range.

    Either revolver or semi-auto is fine. Night sight option a plus. Laser compatibility a must (Sounds like I'm taking out a personal ad, don't it? ).

    Ambi-controls not a must on anything except safety on a 1911-style. Like most lefties, I've learned to "adapt".

    Prefer more power than a .380 ACP, but not a deal breaker for the right gun.

    I know, prolly waaay too much info., but what are your thoughts? Thanks in advance for any advice you good folks can give me.

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    Of all the guns I own, I always go back to my Sig 250 Subcompact in 9mm.. I love to carry that gun, and I love to carry my Glock 36. I know you said no Glock, but, the G36 is single stack, thin, light and a great carry gun down here in Florida. Those are the two staples in my carry line up.

    Sig 250 subcompact 9mm:



    Glock 36:

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    Have you thought about Springfield EMP? (Not sure about the laser though).
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    Nice ad

    Regarding a heavy gun in hot weather; I live in the desert where triple digits are the norm, the right holster and belt combo will make anything disappear under just a t-shirt.

    Your 'ad' has such a broad criteria; pretty much anything, but a Glock, will do.

    Get a Browning Hi-Power and a Black Ops Pro... that's it.
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    First of all, welcome!

    Based on how I read your requirements, you should probably consider an M&P or Sig P250. If you don't mind going up a little in weight then add a Sig 239 or something similar to the list. Good luck with your search.
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    I've been taking a shine to my M&P lately, and I'm a fairly big Glock enthusiast. I think it fits your requirements quite nicely.
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    Owned and loved the G36 single stack .45, when it worked, but I had so many problems w/the extractor on it I got rid of it and am now a bit shy of getting another one.

    Ya'll are being really helpful, and in large measure have confirmed those guns on my list: Springfield EMP (think it takes officer CTC grips), S&W M&P, Sig P239, (and Kahr CW9 or 40, which nobody mentioned). I eliminated the Para LDA PDA b/c it won't take a laser grip due to the non-standard grip screw spacing and no rail.

    I have the Kimber Aegis Ultra on the list, too, along w/the EMP, but I do have some concerns about reliability of the 1911 platform when shrunk to that size. Anyone w/experience?

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    Reading your post i just kept thinking an M&P 9mm or 45ACP compact sounds like something you want to check out... the gun is 99% ambidextrous (yes the mag release is reversible.) light weight, slim.. NOT blocky like a Glock.. night sights is good.. Ambidextrous thumb safety if you want, magazines disconnect or not. My father and I both have Crimson trace laser grips for our M&P's which just replace the backstraps, couldn't get any easier.
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    The big plus to the M&P is the price, as it's the least expensive gun, along w/the Kahr. If I got the M&P, I'd probably get a snubbie revolver, too, now or soon. I know that at some point, I want a .38 snubbie carry option, and despite the fact I've been a lifelong Ruger revolver fan (my wife loves the S&Ws, :D), I've really been looking hard at the new Smith Bodyguard snub over the Ruger LCR, b/c the Smith has the laser mounted higher on the frame, allowing for a higher hold. The LCR has a Crimson Trace option, but on small revolvers, I choke up my grip, and my thumb gets in the way of a grip laser.

    Decisions, decisions. Thanks again, guys.

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    Walther PPS

    If you like slim grips I would point you toward the Walther PPS. The PPS comes in both a 9mm and .40 version and is actually about 1 inch thick. Since you don't like snappy recoil I would recommend that you go with the 9mm version as the .40 version (which I own) is snappy. I carry my PPS down here in the SC heat without any issues. Using a good IWB holster that you can tuck your shirt in with the gun will disappear. Another forum member SirLingPing had a post with pictures of his PPS concealed with a tucked in dress shirt and pants. Also given its size the gun is amazingly accurate.

    Here is a link to SirLingPing's post:
    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...ht=Sirlingping

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    Thanks for the link on the PPS, beni. The PPS was on my list initially, but I had read the gun was top heavy, and it felt that way to me in the store, even w/a full mag. It even looks like there's a bunch of unnecessary metal on top of the slide. That said, a lot of those who bought 'em sure seem to love 'em, and the concealment in those pics is awesome. Grip feels good in my small hand, too. My other concern w/the PPS, though, was that only a rail laser is avail. yet, which reduces holster options. I may PM a few folks here who own them to ask about how they balance.

    Quote Originally Posted by beni View Post
    If you like slim grips I would point you toward the Walther PPS. The PPS comes in both a 9mm and .40 version and is actually about 1 inch thick. Since you don't like snappy recoil I would recommend that you go with the 9mm version as the .40 version (which I own) is snappy. I carry my PPS down here in the SC heat without any issues. Using a good IWB holster that you can tuck your shirt in with the gun will disappear. Another forum member SirLingPing had a post with pictures of his PPS concealed with a tucked in dress shirt and pants. Also given its size the gun is amazingly accurate.

    Here is a link to SirLingPing's post:
    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...ht=Sirlingping

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    H&k p2000sk

    I don't believe the H&K P2000SK has been mentioned, a high quality polymer framed gun available in 9mm, .40 or .357 Sig. The ergonomics and trigger feel are excellent, and it is ambidextrous in its controls.

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    First, welcome. You'll find a lot of good help here. I love my XD9SC and it's very easy to shoot (recoil, etc.). High capacity for such a small package. I feel it is easy to hide while tucked (via CB supertuck, kholster, etc.). YMMV depending on your build, etc. I'd also look at the PPS. Slimmer, and a good shooter. I'm not sure how I feel about the mag release still, but I feel it's a good weapon. EMPs are soo nice, but as said I don't know about a laser...you'd have to research that.

    Good luck and welcome.
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    Another +1 on the M&P compact lines. The ambidextrous controls (well...easily switched, anyway) and variety of grip options out-of-the-box. Good luck on your hunt!

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    I'd go with the new Smith snubby, or just about any LW 38 snubby over an auto for concealed defensive carry.
    The advantages are many--
    Reliability--no safeties or mag. releases to screw up....they go bang every time. They are reliable when fired from inside a pociet or with the muzzle in contact with
    an attacker.
    Power/weight ratio---to get down to an 11-13 ounce autoloader you have to go to a .380 or smaller.
    Price--both the new Smith and the Ruger LCR, as well as other models used can be acquired for under $500. Of course you can buy a P3AT or Ruger LCP for less,
    but by the time you factor in a couple hundred rounds of ammo to break it in and the possibility of having to buy new springs, mags, etc, that advantage more than disappears.

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