From the hot sands of Middle East

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    From the hot sands of Middle East

    to the green forests of France.
    I received my new toys last week and I have a first opinion about these newcomers.






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    Caracal pistols at the range













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    I had a lot of fun defeating the rate of digital cameras shooting in burst between 3.7 and 5.2 pictures per second while staying in the A zone of an IPSC target @12 meters.

    You never forget some things once you learned them.

    I did have some serious reliabilty problems with a F and a C, Failure to feed, Failure to fire, erratic ejection and slide stop was locking before magazines were empty. 18 incidents with the 155 first rounds using NATO ammo, FN mfg then I switched to Sellier & Bellot, CBC (MagTech) and MFS commercial ammo and I had less problem.
    I identified the causes, I took 3 more F pistols to the range, I had a competition during the weekend. I took the risk using one of them for Vitesse Militaire event ( Service pistol CISM Rapid Fire )

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    I did not finish last, sure I did not finish first but I had fun during the competition.
    These pistols have a lot of potential but some things have to be ironed out.
    I like them, just not love at first sight ;-)
    Sights are one of those things that are not up to the accuracy of the barrel,
    these pistols deserve better than that when using them for more than defensive use at short distance..




    Some people make fun of me when she is shooting with such tactical protective equipment (Boll goggles resisting to high speed grenade fragments)



    just because I do not want to see my loved ones with damaged eyes or hearing.
    Thanks to my Rodenstock specialty tempered glasses.
    It cost an arm but it worths the cost when using a milling machine or having spent case coming straight to the eye like today.
    I should have stopped firing when I received the second case in a row on the forehead.
    I knew the ejection was quite erratic but that one had a less erratic ejection than the others.
    I think the serie I received may be one of the first batches.
    it bears Merkel USA, Trussville, Alabama engraved inside.
    My overall opinion is good about them and so is the feeling of those who used them today, I got some orders.
    but with such a price tag here, it is better not to give a chance to the competition to tarnish the reputation of a product.
    They did that already before these pistols reached our shores.





    First magazine (18 rounds), 9mm NATO ammo, FN Mfg, Rapid Fire, 25 m, isoceles stance. Caracal F , SN BM 300.
    Yes, I know! There's one miss on top right.That was the only one of the day, one too much.



    I shot a lot, I had a sore thumb from presssing the slide release (Ok, slide stop)
    The C has seen now 500 rounds through it and I had only 2 failures for the last 100 rounds (locked slide when not empty and unlocked slide with empty mag)
    I finished with 147 grains ammo and had no problem.

    For the 3 F pistols, I did use Wilson Combat Ultimate lube as well and I had"only" 6 failures through 750 rounds, none for the last 80 rounds through each of them except erratic ejection that finally broke my glasses after hitting twice my forehead and much more my white shirt ( Note to self, when you are not shooting your favorite 10mm that has a tuned ejector, do not wear anything white)

    Looks like they needed all a break in.
    I am still less satisfied than with my P 99 or my Steyr M9 for the time being.
    Most dissatisfaction comes from the rear sight not up to the accuracy of the pistol.

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    It sounds like the recoil spring may be causing some of the problems. I hope you get it worked out. The pictures gave my poor dialup fits!
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    Great post edmond......great pictures.

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    Sounds like I will be sticking to my M&P's and Glocks! Only time will tell, but this goes under the "nice try" category until they get the bugs worked out.
    Ccccccc what? Ccccccccccc Hawks!

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    More than a nice try. I am working the bugs out on mines, I had a talk with someone working there today. Looks like my posts ignited a reaction, they agree totally on the rear sight. for the other points, Insh'Allah. ;-)

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    Insh'Allah it works when you need it to! LOL
    Ccccccc what? Ccccccccccc Hawks!

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