This is a discussion on Let's Talk 45acp! within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I have many handguns and could carry alot of different models but EDC it's always a 1911 in either Commander or Gov models. Les Baer ...
I have many handguns and could carry alot of different models but EDC it's always a 1911 in either Commander or Gov models. Les Baer (TRS), Ed Brown (Kobra Carry), S&W (Sc) or Nighthawk (Talon).
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I have a G30. Great shooter and comfy to carry. It is easier to carry my 19 or 27, but the 30 has been toted all day w/ no issues. 10+1 capacity is nothing to sneeze at. Plus I carry a spare 13 round 21 mag. I shot my 30 right after shooting my 19 the other day. After loading my 19 mags, when I got to loading the 30 mags I said to myself, "Damn, these rounds are big." LOL. But I feel confident that either will stop a threat. 124 +p Speer GDs in the 19 and 230 Speer GDs in the 30.
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I have both a Glock 30sf and am XD45 Tactical. Both are awesome guns and very easy shooting. I used the XD on a 4 day defensive course and put over 800 rounds through it without a single problem. The 30sf fits my hand really well and shoots as well if not better than the XD considering how small it is.
One of the prime differences (among many) in choosing poly guns or 1911s is capacity and weight. Weight helps tame recoil, but technology keep the recoil of most poly guns well manageable. 1911 capacity is more limited (8+1 in full size), poly .45 generally run from 6+1 (G36) up to 13+1 for the G21, maybe more in a few cases. Of course there is a trade off point for size veresus capacity.
I chose the Glock 30 for several reasons: Price - I get the retired military discount; reputation - It's a Glock, it's gonna work; the capacity - 10+1, 13+1 if I insert a G 21 mag (nice for HD duty); and simplicity - clean lines, pull the trigger and it fires; low maintenance - keep it clean. I have not been disappointed.
The only changes I made to it was to replace the extended slide lock release lever with the extended version. I found the OEM lever to be difficult to use. The extended version, while only slightly wider, is much easier. I didn't care for the white sights (nor any other make of white sights), am not a fan of night sights, so I painted the white sights DayGlo-Orange. Works for me and stands out well against any background.
I do find that the gun gets heavier as the day wears on, but that's because of the weight of the ammo, not the gun. .45 ammo is heavier ... in any gun. While I can carry the G30 easily, in hindsight, I think I might go with the G36 if doing it again, both for the slighter thinness and the lighter weight.
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The 1911 was the first handgun I bought myself, Colt .38 Super, then I got Colt .45, now I have an RIA and a Taurus added to the 1911 stable. Picking a carry gun is a personal thing, what I like, someone else may not. With a good belt and holster carrying a full size 1911 is not a problem, and if you need more than 9 rounds, reload and pray. I would suggest try a 1911 and a polymer handgun in .45 and see which you like best.
Next year is the 100 anniversary of the 1911 being adopted as the U.S. military sidearm (still being issues to some military unit to this day), so all next year my EDC handgun is going to be a 1911
I like the 1911, too.
For me, a lot of it is the nostalgia, the tradition. .45 ACP and 1911, like bread and butter. I like the heft of steel, I like the single action, the low round capacity (compared to polymers) is connected to the fact that it's so slim; which makes it easy to carry and conceal, for me.
It's only got 9 rounds in it, but they're 9 rather big ones
I like 'em all. I have also eyed the G36 and XDm .45, and perhaps may get one, someday.
Oh, and the real reason that Rollo got the M&P is because he already has a 1911
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The 1911's are great weapons. I carry my Wilson Combat CQB compact everyday and absolutely love it. For me, I shoot the 1911's the most accurately, I prefer SAO and they just seem to conceal pretty easily for me. Of all the 1911's that I have the Wilson is by far my favorite (even up against my Les Baer, STI or Ed Brown). It has well over 2,500 rounds through it and I have never had a malfunction with it.
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I have a Kimber CDP Compact, Colt Lightweight Commander, and Glock 30 SF.
I'm a Glock fan, but the 1911 design is slimmer and more comfortable to carry for me given the exact same type of holster and IWB location.
The XD45 Compact is good too; I actulally like the grip / feel better than the Glock, but it's still thicker than the 1911. I sold the XD45 despite my preference for the grip.
I like the looks, size, slimness and weight of the Kimber CDP Compact. It's "factory" magazine didn't work well (last round misfeeds) and was replaced with a Tripp mag.
I like the looks, slimness and quickness of 2nd shot with my XSE Lightweight Commander that sports a set of "Big Dot" sights. Same last round misfeed using "factory" magazine, so it's also fed by a Tripp mag.
The Glock 30 SF is good, but I'm carrying one of the 1911's.
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S&W Model 457. Reason why I chose it in 1996 was that it was one of the very few subcompact .45 handguns at that time. And, even though there are much better "pocket rockets" now than ever before, I still stick with it since I already have lots of mags for it and it be a waste if I have to trade it. And besides, S&W still have extra parts/accessories for it even though the 457 is no longer manufactured. Not only is it low cost ($450), it is also surprisingly reliable with just about any quality ammo. As for accuracy, not match grade like the 1911s or the Glocks but still combat accurate at close range. Also much easier to conceal too than some other subcompact .45s. My preferred loads that I use are either the Federal 165 gr. Hydrashock JHP (may be criticized for being called obsolete in design but it is still one of the most street-proven loads for the .45 ACP) or Remington +P 185 gr. Golden Saber HPJ (if there are no Hydrashocks in stock). I also prefer lighter loads since the .45 suffers a great deal in velocity loss due to reduced barrel length in subcompact handguns.
Last edited by Jason Storm; October 16th, 2010 at 11:26 PM.