What to carry?

What to carry?

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    What to carry?

    I am sure that this has been a question that has been asked quite a bit. I am considering going to get my cetification and start carrying. I don't think my current gun (Ruger P95DC 9mm) will work for what I want to do. It is a little too big. I am a big guy 6'5", but would like to carry out of my front pocket. I have been looking at the Kel-Tec P11 or waiting for the PF-9. Are there any other guns I should consider? What do peope think of the P11 and the specs for the PF-9?

    Note: I am not married to the 9mm caliber choice, but do like it.


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    I'd go Smith airweight snubby in any of thier current offerings...
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    The choices are many - we have always got some threads going on this subject and I reckon if you do some searches on guns by model - you'll find a whole load of discussion and info.

    Give that a go first - and that plus other input should help you choosing. P-11 is IIRC under discussion in a very recent thread.

    Ahh - here ya go - http://www.combatcarry.com/vbulletin...ad.php?t=10418
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    Here are some small autos that would work for pocket carry: Kahr PM9 or PM40. Kel-Tec P11, PF9, P3AT(380), P32(32acp). GLOCK 26 (9mm), 27 (40), they also make sub-compacts in 357 SIG, 45acp, 45gap, and 10mm. Springfield Armory's XDs in subcompact either 9mm or 40.

    Of course there are also the Smith and Wesson J frames, Taurus compact frames, and the Ruger SP101. The last one I don't how people pocket carry but there are more than a few on this forum that do pocket carry an SP101.

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    Do the 380's have much stopping power? (I know the debate about placement being the key, but I don't want to have something that won't stop well, if placed right)

    Great suggestions so far! I appreciate them all!

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    S&W 642 snubby in .38 +P

    I think the best bet for pocket carry is the Smith & Wesson model 642 internal hammer snubby in 38+P caliber. It holds 5 shots, has an aluminum frame, and weighs 15 ounces empty. I have one and use the new Speer Gold Dot .38+P 135 grain ammo, which gives a muzzle velocity of about 860 fps in a 2 inch barrel.

    I think the small revolvers are more reliable than small semiautos, and the round contours of the model 642 conceal wll without printing, in a good pocket holster.
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    After seeing what a .22lr will do to a jack rabbits head I'd have no problem carrying a .22. But, like others, I always go by the theory that bigger is better. I will not hesitate to carry anything from 380 and up. I will say that the 380 in the Kel-Tec isn't fun to shoot. But that is because of the thin grip and light weight.

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    Good Holster and Belt and dress the part you can carry anything i have carried a Ruger p-90 and carry a 1911 5" everyday ..

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    Here is a follow-up question. All of these are great suggestions, but I don't know of anywhere I can test fire these guns here in Albuquerque. How do you all test a gun before you buy it? I know I feel it for grip and weight distriburtion, maybe even do a dry fire, but that doesn't tell me very much compared to running a magazine through it.

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    koolguynet.you need to try and find a gun store where they rent guns, so that you can try them out.I am going this week to a place that has 6 different snubbys for me to try be for my next purchase.
    BTW I am looking for a 357 snubby that I can pocket carry if I want.One nice thing about the hammerless revolvers, you can shoot from the pocket if you need to.You can only do that once with an auto.
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    Thanks Woody. I will look for a shop that let's me do that. Off the top of my head, I only know of one in the area and they don't have the P11 to try out. In fact, finding a Kel-tec is tough in this town. I'll try to take a look at the snubbies. Thanks!

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    Hey Koolguynet, you should definitely try the snubbies, for the reason that the grips may be way too small for your hands. I'm only 5'9" and my wifes S&W Chief has grips that are almost too small for my hands. Makes it difficult to get a secure feeling purchase on the weapon. One reason you may be finding your Glock too large to carry concealed comfortably (?) is that it is a double stack. I carry a 4" 1911 with a standard 7 round grip (although I have the Wilson 8 round mag in it)and while heavy (it is all steel), the size isn't a problem as the 1911 is a thin weapon. You do lose some rounds, but I also carry an extra mag or 2 depending. Another idea might be to send your frame to Robar and have the grip re-formed to a thinner profile, although I am by no means a Glock guy, so I don't know if they can thinnen' it or how much it would cost. Try to figure out exactly what part of your pistol is making it non-carry viable (barrel too long, grip too long, grip too fat) and find a pistol that fixes that one issue but has all of the other things you like about your current piece. You might also think about using a different carry option, such as a shoulder rig. Good luck!

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    Dummy me. Don't know why I thought you said Glock, but same rules apply.

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    I find that I'm much more accurate with my Kahr MK9 than my S&W 642.

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    I'm not going to repeat my rant on the P11, so here's a link to a thread on the subject of the P11. Many glowing reports, and my well, not so glowing account. http://www.combatcarry.com/vbulletin...ad.php?t=11369

    There are several good suggestions here. I' 6'3", and wanted a pocket pistol for carry during the Vegas summers, when cover garments are just too hot. I originally bought a Glock 26, then decided that I wanted something thinner. I bought the P11 after reading reports on other groups, similar to several in the above thread. I found it to be unreliable. I would have been better served to spend more money on the Kahr. However, I decided to get a Nemesis pocket holster, and tried the Glock. To my surprise, the Glock works just fine as a pocket pistol. But, since I can't find my favorite cargo pants anymore, front pocket carry is becoming inconvenient. So, I bought a fanny pack holster, and now I carry my XD 45. I've heard on several boards that the fanny pack (like the photographer's vest and others), scream concealed carry. I disagree, as only those who either carry or are familiar with concealed carry would think so. If it did, then we have a lot of tourists on the strip armed. I'll use the Fanny Pack until it cools enough to wear a vest or other cover garment.

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