Two part question..helping someone pick an inexpensive 45 acp

Two part question..helping someone pick an inexpensive 45 acp

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    Two part question..helping someone pick an inexpensive 45 acp

    I am helping a friend pick a 45 acp handgun for ccw. The want a small package,hi cap, and want to keep price down. The Taurus PT 145 looks like the perfect combo of form/function, but we are concerned with Taurus quality and holster options for the handgun. Opinions/experience with PT145? Any IWB holsters that are from reputable makers out there for pt 145? Thanks!


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    Quote Originally Posted by skystud1 View Post
    I am helping a friend pick a 45 acp handgun for ccw. The want a small package,hi cap, and want to keep price down. The Taurus PT 145 looks like the perfect combo of form/function, but we are concerned with Taurus quality and holster options for the handgun. Opinions/experience with PT145? Any IWB holsters that are from reputable makers out there for pt 145? Thanks!
    This is actually not a bad pistol for the money. My neighbor is the ex chief of police here. He carries one every day. He has had some minor problems. It is a good pistol, not a great pistol.

    • Constructed with a hammer forged slide and an injection molded polymer frame, Taurus' Millennium Pro PT145 is a pocket size, extremely lightweight double action only autoloader in .45 ACP that weighs only 22.6 ounces.. The Model PT145 has a 10 round magazine capacity for 10+1. The most central feature of the gun is its recoil operated action instead of the simple blowback mechanisms found on many other pocket size pistols
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    In my opinion he's asking the impossible. He's looking for a high capacity, small, light weight package, in 45 ACP that costs very little. If he is willing to spend around $550 -$600 I would highly recommend Glock 36 or 30. The G30 has higher capacity, but is heavier and thicker. If he is willing to spend a little more, he should look at the S&W M&P compact in 45 ACP.

    I personally carry the Glock 36. I had a G30 but considered it too fat for me to carry.
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    The PT145 is a great gun if you get one that works. Mine was easy to conceal and easy to shoot but I had magazine issues and Taurus couldn't get them sorted out. My personal suggestion would be to save up a extra 100-150.00 and get a Glock 30. As far as holsters go I know that crossbreed makes the super tuck for the PT145. Carl Collins also makes iwb and owb holsters for it if all leather is your thing. He makes a really good belt as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedomofchoice View Post
    In my opinion he's asking the impossible. He's looking for a high capacity, small, light weight package, in 45 ACP that costs very little. If he is willing to spend around $550 -$600 I would highly recommend Glock 36 or 30. The G30 has higher capacity, but is heavier and thicker. If he is willing to spend a little more, he should look at the S&W M&P compact in 45 ACP.

    I personally carry the Glock 36. I had a G30 but considered it too fat for me to carry.
    I would not want to be the guy to recommend an unreliable pistol to a friend or even a stranger. The Taurus often gets bashed by people who have never seen one or owned one.
    I know some Hi point owners that are perfectly happy with them. There are more reliable pistols than Taurus. That can change.

    I agree though, spend a little more if you can and buy something that is not going to be a big question mark.

    I'm not a Glock guy. Others may be happy with theirs. I just prefer SIG, CZ, S&W.

    The Glock 30 would be worth looking at. I would compare it to the S&W M&P 45C.
    They are both about the same price and only about $100.00 more than the Taurus.
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    Look at a SIG P250, they are under $400.00 right now and they fit your description. I looked at the Taurus on my last shopping trip, it had fit and quality issues. In all fairness, I did not shoot it and it had a very good trigger, but the mag would not lock into place 50% of the time - even with a smart smack on the floor plate.

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    I'll add my PT145 failure experience. I had one for nearly a year and never once did the gun cycle with a full magazine. I also had many FTF with only a half magazine. I sent it to Taurus and waited over two months to get it back, just to find out it still had the same problems. I now have a 1911 for my .45 fix and couldn't be happier. If you can live with only 8 rounds instead of 10-13, then there are plenty of decent priced 1911's that IMHO are much easier to conceal than a fat double stacked polymer pistol. Only downside is they normally weigh twice as much, but with the right holster it's a non-issue. Even my Ultra-Compact sized 1911 holds 7 rounds.

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    Glock 30. Spend a little more to get a dependable gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa Nick View Post
    Look at a SIG P250, they are under $400.00 right now and they fit your description. I looked at the Taurus on my last shopping trip, it had fit and quality issues. In all fairness, I did not shoot it and it had a very good trigger, but the mag would not lock into place 50% of the time - even with a smart smack on the floor plate.
    Excellent suggestion!
    I own one. Mine is a 9mm Compact. Probably one of the first around here. Never a problem with it, Very easy to take down and maintain. Some complain about the long DAO trigger but it is smooth. I have always liked the gun.
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    As many have already posted, save up and buy a more reliable pistol. Price is always a consideration but should be lower in priorities than reliability. Your friend will be kicking himself and maybe you if he spends say $400 on a cheap gun that can't be relied upon when he should have spent $100 to $200 more and had a reliable CC pistol.

    Don't go cheap!

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    How about a used Glock or something like that? could have a gun smith or glock armor take a look at it and make sure its good...

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    Inexpensive is the key word, not cheap. Many inexpensive handguns work fine, considering the "inexpensive" price in comparison to higher end 1911s and others.

    Glock 30: ten +1 or 13+1 with a G21 mag. Gives it an extra boost for HD duty. Doesn't print as much as you think it does.
    Glock 36: Lighter (mainly due to less ammo weight) and thinner. Extra mag equals more capacity.
    Either is affordable and ultra reliable.

    Any hi-cap .45 will be heavier due to the ammo weight, but that's the price of carrying a .45. You deal with it if that's the caliber you want.
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    Have you looked at the Kahr CW45? I saw one at a recent gun show for around $425 or so. Very thin (which is the biggest factor, for me).

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    You know I can't agree with you guys/gals more! The Taurus appears too good to be true with regard to its size and capacity. It's ergos look cool, but for $350 bucks what can you expect. The G30 is too big so the 36 might be an option. it's not a duty gun, so 7 rounds should suffice. As for the Kahr cw45, I saw one for 450 new. A tad longer grip, but same capacity. Decisions, decisions!! I will take a look at the Sig 250 as well.. There is something in the back of my mind that doesn't feel comfortable with a Taurus. Not saying they are bad, but I don't get the warm and fuzzies. Alos, I think it says a lot about a gun when holster makers rarely make a holster for it. Thanks for the suggestions!! Keep em coming!

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    SA XD .45 Compact, Glock 30 or Kahr .45, not necessarily in that order, would be my choices. I have no experience with the specific model of Taurus, but I do with other Tauri. Right now, I own about 13 Glocks, 9 Kahrs, one SA XDm .45, and no Tauri. I'm waiting to see if SA comes out with an XDm .45 Compact. Whether or not they do, I'll soon own a SA XD .45 Compact of some persuasion. Further, Affiant Sayeth Naught.

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