Small 9mm's

This is a discussion on Small 9mm's within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by taseal Here is where the problem is... are you buying her a range gun, or a self defense gun? It's stupid to ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by taseal View Post
    Here is where the problem is... are you buying her a range gun, or a self defense gun? It's stupid to get a small tiny gun if it's for range shooting. get her a regular pistol that won't kick much.

    This is where most people have the problem with the PF9. they complain after 100 rounds, their hands hurt... well maybe you are using it for the wrpong purpose? maybe you need to go practice once a month with 50 rounds if it hurts ur hands that much. and leave range/accuracy shooting to full size pistols
    Thing is, she wants something she can practice regularly with. I don't know about you, but I would much rather my wife have a gun that she's comfortable and has a lot of practice with, should she ever need to use it.

    If it's only about range shooting, since we always go together she can use my XD. But that won't respond the same as a 709 or such, and changing things up in a crisis seems to me to be a bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coltman 77 View Post
    I keep range records on each of our pistols and to date we've put 1520 rds. of assorted fmj and jhp ammo through this pistol with zero malfunctions.
    I wish I could talk her into an XD. I've easily put a couple thousand rounds through mine (had it for about 8 months). One day, I put 1000 rounds through it in one session - no problems.

    Thanks for the info. I seem to remember us taking a look at the PPS once, but I had kinda forgotten about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random View Post
    I wish I could talk her into an XD. I've easily put a couple thousand rounds through mine (had it for about 8 months). One day, I put 1000 rounds through it in one session - no problems.

    Thanks for the info. I seem to remember us taking a look at the PPS once, but I had kinda forgotten about it.
    Glad to help.

    The PPS is a lot of fun at the range and, as I mentioned, soft-shooting, especially so given its size.

    I recommend you take a serious look at one.

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    FWIW -- just to let you know you're not getting a "newbie's" feedback -- I've been buying and shooting quality handguns since my first purchase in 1977, a Colt MK IV Series 70 Govt. Model, followed shortly thereafter by a T Series Browning Hi Power.
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    The Glock 26 is smaller than the Ruger SR9c. If the grip is too thick for her, it can always be reduced by a competent gunsmith - one of the nice things about plastic.

    The G26 is indeed a sweet shooting gun. Excellent trigger, with a positive reset. It is stupid fast to put shots on target quickly with. And reliable...very very reliable. The magazines are steel reinforced polymer, which makes the mags resistant to damage from drops - mag issues are the main source of reliability issues with pistols.

    If possible, have her try one out.
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    While the Glock 26 might be too thick for her, you might want to have her pick up a Glock 19 gen 4 (if you can find one). It is a bit bigger overall than a 26 but the grip does feel better than some of the earlier Glocks. While not what I'd call a small gun, it's not large either.
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    I would re-consider the Ruger SR9c.
    Although that's what I'm carrying, it's a fairly heavy gun and not in the Kel-Tec or Kahr mousegun class.

    As several people have noted above, there's a sort of calculus here such that guns that are super-easy to conceal and carry are not easy to shoot. Heavier and harder-to-conceal guns are better for the range. So if you want lots of target and tactical practice, have a gun that's made for that, then practice a bit with the smaller weapon.

    Having tried out both the Kel-Tec and the Kahr, I'd only consider the Kahr, as it's much easier to shoot.
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    Still say the 3913 or the budget model 908 is right up her alley. It meets all your criteria.
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    My wife kind of drifted towards the Glock-26, she also found it easier to rack the G-26 slide than the slides of most other guns that she tried.
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    Have her try a Sig P239 and watch the smile on her face.

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    I have a Taurus PT709 stainless slide model with 1200 flawless rounds through it. No problems at all, fun to shoot, very accurate. It is a small and light gun, so it has a good bit of recoil, but not as much as I thought it would based on shooting other small light 9mms. A hogue junior grip sleeve can help this. They can be ammo sensitive and can be sensitive to limp wristing. They require frequent cleaning (after every session or 200 rounds). They are not made to be range guns per se or military spec roll them around in the mud and shoot 600 rounds without cleaning guns. They were made for CC.

    Another somewhat compact 9mm that is not ammo sensitive, not limp wrist sensitive, not dirty sensitive, and absorbs recoil well is the Bersa Thunder 9 ultra compact. It's not "very small" or "very light" or "very thin", but it is considerably smaller than the XD due to having a rounded slide top, tapered frame, rounded edges, etc. It is a VERY good balance and comprimise of ALL of those considerations and is an outstanding handgun. It is worth a very close look as they are super reliable, good quality, durable, and not expensive. At 13+1 capacity and features like de-cocker with double action and single action, it's hard to beat.
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    Well we just got the PF9 for my SO along with some hogue grips. she liked that one the most. the PT709 was bigger and she told me that 'I honestly wouldn't carry it as often'

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    If you get lucky, you may want to give the S&W CS9 a try. Single stack 9mm, reliable, accurate, and can be carried on safety.

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    Kahr MK9

    I think the Kahr MK9 is one of the best small 9mm guns on the market. It weighs about 24 ounces and is all steel, so it handles 9mm recoil very well. The trigger is double action only, with a long, smooth pull that doesn't cause the gun to move or affect accuracy. The dimensions are very compact, so it conceals easily IWB on the belt or in a purse or bag. I have had one for 3 years and put 1000 rounds through it with no problems at all.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Random View Post
    Thing is, she wants something she can practice regularly with. I don't know about you, but I would much rather my wife have a gun that she's comfortable and has a lot of practice with, should she ever need to use it.

    If it's only about range shooting, since we always go together she can use my XD. But that won't respond the same as a 709 or such, and changing things up in a crisis seems to me to be a bad idea.
    For regular range use in a small 9mm, it is hard to beat the Kahr K9. The all steel pistols brings some heft to the table without adding any size. It also can be fitted with a variety of grips, even the excellent Crimson Trace laser, should that interest you. It's polymer sibling, the P9, is the same size but lighter in weight and will reflect that in a bit more felt recoil, but is also a good choice IMHO.

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