The Kahr PM9 is popular. Have you looked into it?
This is a discussion on Small 9mm's within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; My wife is looking for a carry gun. Although she really likes my XD, she wants something quite a bit smaller to carry. She was ...
My wife is looking for a carry gun. Although she really likes my XD, she wants something quite a bit smaller to carry. She was originally looking at the LCP, but I asked her to consider the smaller 9mm's as well (so we could both use the same ammo).
I used to have a Kel-tec PF9 - she definitely did NOT like shooting it - hurt her hand to shoot. We looked at a Taurus 709, which she found very comfortable, and I've heard a number of decent reports - but then, I've also heard a number of negative reviews of it as well...
Is there anything else in this size range? So we have a baseline - the Ruger SR9c is bigger than she wants, so it would really have to be PF9/709 size. What else is out there in 9mm that size?
Or would we be better off going back to looking at .380's?
The Kahr PM9 is popular. Have you looked into it?
I'm going through the same problem right now. we are going to make a decision within the next couple of days... Thing is, you need to realize that something as light and small as the PF9 with a 9mm round is going to kick. there is no way around that... it's just physics. weight of the pistol, the slimness of the grip, and the power of the round. if that same pistol was made in .380 it wouldn't kick as much. if it was all metal, it wouldn't kick as much...
that being said, it's also not a range gun. perhaps she needs to shoot full size pistols and get used to shooting a pistol, then practice with the PF9 to get used to the the pistol so she can use it when she needs to. I guarentee you she won't be bitching about how it hurts her hand to shoot it when she needs to unload 7 rounds into a bad guy at 10 feet...
That's me and my gf's philosophy. We are going to get her a PF9 for carry and a MP9 or a MP9c to practice shooting.
this is similar to people buying .357 revolvers, and 95% of the time practicing with .38 because the .357 hurts to shoot after a while, but they all carry .357 in there.
I don't think there is any getting around it.....the smaller/lighter the gun the more she will feel recoil. The Taurus 709 is approximately the same size and weight as the PF9. I don't see how recoil could be less. I would suggest something no smaller than the Kahr CW9 or, if you don't mind the extra expense, the Walther PPS. I would not go smaller than that. What ever the case, let HER be the final judge.
Too light for heavy work, too heavy for light work!
I have a taurus 709 and I can tell you it kicks a lot less than a pf9.I haven't had any malfunctions with mine.I trust it completely.She can also use a padded shooting glove on her shooting hand.Cut the fingers back and she will still have her gripping ability. Thats just for practice of course. sj
Kahr PM9, Kahr CW9, Walther P99 (if she can get used to the magazine release).
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KelTec PF-9, Taurus PT709, and Kahr PM9 in that order from least expensive to most expensive. God Bless
Went through the same thing with my better half. She shoots the XD's very well but they are a bit bulky for her to carry.
She carries an MK9 now and can shoot it well without any pain from recoil. It is still jumpy but being all metal it is more controllable than one would think.
I liked hers so much I picked one up for myself.
Have her wrap her hands around a Kahr PM9, Walther PPS, Walther P99c, Beretta Px4 Storm Sub-Compact, Heckler & Koch P2000sk, S&W MP9c and a Glock 26. Let her choose whichever gun feels best in her hand. Nonetheless, the lighter and smaller the pistol is the more recoil it will have.
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I would re-consider the Ruger SR9c.
It has NOT gotten a bad review.
It is supposed to have a very nice trigger.
I have a M&P9c, and a Kel Tec p-11.
M&P is very nice.
She will not like the Kel Tec. Its not a range gun at all.
For the money I would go for the Ruger.
WAY better Quality for around the same amt. of money, than the Taurus.
WAY less expensive than the Kahrs, and maybe even better in the quality dept.
Way lighter than the 3913.
And less expensive than these: Walther PPS, Walther P99c, Beretta Px4 Storm Sub-Compact, Heckler & Koch P2000sk
I will also echo what the others have said; HAVE HER hold and shoot as many of these at a range that rents them, or a friend who may have one.
Let her decide what kicks more, what she shoots better, and what feels better.
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This is where most people have the problem with the PF9. they complain after 100 rounds, their hands hurt... well maybe you are using it for the wrpong purpose? maybe you need to go practice once a month with 50 rounds if it hurts ur hands that much. and leave range/accuracy shooting to full size pistols
Not skinny but the GLOCK 26 is a sweet shooting 9mm.
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My wife carries a 9mm PPS in a dedicated Coronado Leather CC handbag.
We've both been very pleased with the PPS. It balances well and points naturally. Very, very accurate and really a pleasure to shoot.
I keep range records on each of our pistols and to date we've put 1520 rds. of assorted fmj and jhp ammo through this pistol with zero malfunctions.
The PPS is also available in .40 S&W, so with either 9mm or .40 you're shooting a legitimate SD cartridge.
Walther hit a homerun with the PPS, IMO.
Good luck Random, let us know what you and your better half decide.
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