Gun Philosophy Internal Conflict
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November 24th, 2010 08:46 AM
Gun Philosophy Internal Conflict
Well, I keep thinking/reading about the merits of both revolvers and pistols. I'm thinking of making another purchase but I'm torn. In theory both have advantages/disadvantages but what I am really concerned about is, do they actually matter? I'm looking for actual situations that one or the other didn't work for someone. Has anyone not had enough capacity with a revolver or needed the capacity of the semi? Has anyone had a semi-auto malfunction to the point it was dangerous? All the stories I've read indicate that it doesn't actually matter and either would have sufficed.
Background: I own a 640 and 642. I've only shot one person with an M9 and two shots were enough and I didn't experience any malfunctions.
November 24th, 2010 08:46 AM
November 24th, 2010 09:15 AM
Every situation is different. Depends on what you feel comfortable carrying/shooting. If you don't trust the reliability of semi-auto's and you believe 5 shots or less is all you will ever need, then you would most likely prefer to stick with your 640 and 642. Since you already have those, and you are considering another purchase, then why not add a semi-auto to the collection. It will give you another carry option should you ever decide to carry it.
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November 24th, 2010 09:29 AM
I've only been involved in one firearm-related incident, the result of some teenage foolishness. The firearm involved was a 1911; his, not mine. Staring into the business end, it certainly seemed adaquate enough to me!
There have been many one-shot-one-kill SD situations, just as there have been many times when many shots didn't do the job for whatever reasons. There are some who feel a five-shot snubbie is all the defense they need, just as there are those who wouldn't feel confident without a wagon train of ammo towed behind them.
Each person who decides to carry must make the choice of what style of firearm they feel is their best defense and how much ammunition they feel confident carrying.
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November 24th, 2010 10:15 AM
In your case, I wouldn't so much look at it in terms of capacity--but comfort. What are you comfortable shooting and what you can shoot well? These are mutually exclusive questions. Not to mention, what may work for one person (or their experience), may not apply to you. Don't jump on a semi-auto because everyone else has one; get a semi-auto because you want one.
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November 24th, 2010 11:00 AM
Your conflict is simply a personal taste. Semi's and revolvers can both fail, a revolver usually carries 5-6 shots, many 1911's may have 7-8 shots...my Glock-36 has 6 + 1.
I doubt that in most instances a SD/HD situation would require more than a few shots (2-3 rounds...no facts, just opinion for reading about may situations).
I would ask again, what do you feel comfortable carrying, what feels best in your hand? Practice and training does the rest.OMOYMV
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November 24th, 2010 11:25 AM
I've been carrying a 1911 for 35 years. I've never felt under gunned.
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November 24th, 2010 12:52 PM
Yes, there have been cases where police officers were killed because the capacity of their revolvers was not enough, and the reload was too slow. Not sure about such cases with civilian CCW.
Yes, there have been cases where folks have been killed or hurt because their semi-auto pistol jammed, and they could not clear the jam in time.
Best solution? Carry two handguns. Preferably two semi-auto pistols - you get better capacity than with a revolver, and the likelihood of both of them jamming in the same incident is virtually zero.
Lately I've been carrying a Glock 26 and a Ruger LCP.
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November 24th, 2010 02:05 PM
I personally like variety and have both revolvers and semi autos. When I go to the range I'll often take one of each. If I were in your situation, with 2 revolvers, I'd get a semi auto for my next purchase just to have some variety and be able to compare the two handgun types. This might clarify your opinion on which you prefer for various applications. Two guns isn't enough - you need some more.
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November 24th, 2010 02:15 PM
I don't feel underarmed with a revolver, providing I have a second loaded and ready revolver at hand.
One night I faced three attackers with a little five shot J-Frame. When it was all over, while no shots were fired, I decided right then and there that I would either have a second gun, or one that could be reloaded faster. There is nothing wrong with a revolver, but one has to tailor their tactics to the gun's capabilities, which they should be doing anyway.
For myself, if I can only carry one gun I want it to be the largest gun I can effectively conceal. For me that means a 3" or 4" six shot revolver, or a P35, 1911, or Glock 19. I carry what I shoot best, and I tend to shoot the duty size guns better than the smaller brethren.
November 24th, 2010 02:20 PM
November 24th, 2010 04:53 PM
Most days, my primary is a pistol, my backup a revolver. Problem solved!
November 24th, 2010 05:19 PM
Although I've been a life-long revolver owner, I recently added a semi-auto to the mix.
There's no "right-answer" here, but there is something kind of comforting to know you've got 18 rounds of 9mm on tap fast as you can pull the trigger. While the reliability issue was a big part of why I favor revolvers - a really, really big part - I've got to say that my SR9c makes me feel confident. Hundreds of rounds now out the gun with zero issues.
What's equally important to me is being comfortable with both revolvers and semi-autos. I don't want any weaknesses in my firearm skills, no blind spots, no lack of familiarity. I want to be able to disassemble and reassemble either platform blindfolded. I want both to feel natural and be accurate in the hand.
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November 25th, 2010 08:12 AM
Originally Posted by shockwave
Originally Posted by retsupt99
All well said. I think a .22 semi might be the way to go next so I can afford to practice all the basics - a lot. Since I'm stuck in Maryland right now, I don't need anything to carry out of the house.
Originally Posted by pogo2
November 25th, 2010 08:41 AM
Originally Posted by 10thmtn
I'm kind of going to echo this Idea.
Google Peter Soulis.
Police officer, routine patrol, gets into a firefight with a perp, later identified as a murderer in another state I believe. Anyway , he gets shot by the perp, bullet proof vest did its job, but in the ensuing gun battle he gets shot several times, and the perp gets shot by the cop around 20 times,(the officer had I believe a Glock 22) ultimately succumbing to the wounds.
Guy had only a trace of alcohol in him.
Would you like to cross paths with the likes of that guy, or worse, 2 or 3??
You would definitely be up poop creek without a paddle very quickly.
Will you ever come across this circumstance?
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Definitely not, but nevertheless, win the did.
The point is, every now and then, monkeys fall out of trees.
You must ultimately decide what you are willing to carry.
Are you carrying with a spouse or Friend who also carries?
This ups the ante in your favor. Go ahead and carry that .357 S&W.
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When asked why they shot a BG so many times.
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November 26th, 2010 08:16 AM
People sure do overthink this stuff.
Get a gun you like and can shoot. It's that easy.
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