5 Shots of .357 or 6 shots .38+p?

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    Just waiting for the Dick Special to get worked on by Colt specialist Grant Cunningham... then I will move up to 6 rounds of .38 +P. For me, the tradeoff in controlability points me toward .38 +P instead of .357 mag in a snubby.
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    You know, it's been interesting in my experience, in all of the autopsies , etc. that we've seen..... they can tell you which bullet killed them, but they can't tell you in what order it was fired. It may as well of been the first shot.

    I think accuracy is more important than what or how many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleks View Post
    You know, it's been interesting in my experience, in all of the autopsies , etc. that we've seen..... they can tell you which bullet killed them, but they can't tell you in what order it was fired. It may as well of been the first shot.

    I think accuracy is more important than what or how many.
    Agreed! If I could get a night sight for my dick special the choice would be easy but it has a fixed front ramp that's near impossible to pick up quickly

    I guess my only option is to paint it
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    I prefer six rounds of 158 grain +P .38 Special stoked in a Colt Detective Special over all other choices. The reasons are because the Detective Special is as controllable and accurate as a larger framed double action revolver yet it conceals as well as a J-Frame Smith & Wesson. The .38 Special +P 158 grain SWC load is potent and hard hitting yet is easy to control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tkruf View Post
    Most of the .357's that hold 6 shots are larger and heavier. Therefore I would choose 5 shots of .38+P.

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    I prefer 7 rounds of .357
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    I'm not sure how 38+p stacks up against a hot .380 acp, but do know the hot .380 is on par, or slightly above the ballistic capabilities of standard pressure .38 special. Given that I've witnessed .380 rounds bounce off a ferral hogs front skull plate, and some of the areas I frequent are more and more frequented by Mama Hog and her babies (you do NOT want to get between Mama and offspring), I put away the Airweight 38 spl in favor of the .357 SP101. At least I "feel" better.

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    I made the choice after major disappointments with .380 pocket rockets (three different manufacturers) and a big success with the five-shot S&W J frame in stainless. The next logical upgrade? The one promoted by Massad Ayoob at the end of his excellent book on concealed carry --- the Scandium frame 340PD Airweight in .357 magnum.

    As a Back Up Gun (BUG), let's face it: you are probably in dire straits and in close proximity to the bad guy(s), so any hits are that much more critical AND potent with a 125-grain bonded hollow point (like Double Tap) any where near COM.

    As a primary CCW, you should practice a bit more and learn to anticipate the admittedly brutal recoil of the full-load .357s, but the history of this round is easily the best at one-stop shots and should prove very reliable as well.

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    Having owned and shot both, I've satisfied myself that the standard velocity .38 Special 158 grain SWC loads have more to offer ballistically than the .380 ACP and that +P 158 grain loads offer even a bit more performance.

    900 armadillos can't be wrong.
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    5 rounds of .357, thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmcgilvray View Post
    Having owned and shot both, I've satisfied myself that the standard velocity .38 Special 158 grain SWC loads have more to offer ballistically than the .380 ACP and that +P 158 grain loads offer even a bit more performance.

    900 armadillos can't be wrong.


    aahhhhh....nothing like armadillo on the half-shell

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    Quote Originally Posted by C hawk Glock View Post
    I prefer 7 rounds of .357
    So do I , and carry it frequently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr surveyor View Post
    I'm not sure how 38+p stacks up against a hot .380 acp, but do know the hot .380 is on par, or slightly above the ballistic capabilities of standard pressure .38 special. Given that I've witnessed .380 rounds bounce off a ferral hogs front skull plate, and some of the areas I frequent are more and more frequented by Mama Hog and her babies (you do NOT want to get between Mama and offspring), I put away the Airweight 38 spl in favor of the .357 SP101. At least I "feel" better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmacque View Post
    I prefer my Model 66 .... six shots of .357. Of course, it's a little hard to hide. :)
    Not with the right holster.

    I love carrying my 66-1 2.5".

    I would choose a 6 shot K-frame sized gun (which I do M10 2") over a normal J-frame. Little heavier, great trigger and one extra round. Mine is generally carried in one of my The Slides or Quick Clip IWB.
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    I carry 5 shots of .357 or 16 of 10mm, that is it.

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