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If I knew that I was going somewhere where I would possibly be engaged in a deadly confrontation with firearms, then I just simply wouldn't go there or if forced to I would then take a shotgun or an AR-15. Nonetheless, I trust my training and current handgun rotation which consists of an H&K USP Compact .40 S&W (12 round capacity), a Walther P99 9mm (15 round capacity) and a S&W 442 .38+P (5 round capacity) to handle any situation. If I were to go to a "more dangerous" area than normal, then I would take a backup gun and plenty of ammo (2 mags per gun). I'd probably go with my H&K USP Compact .40 S&W as main carry and my Walther P99 9mm for backup.
Nonetheless, I think that shot placement is more important than caliber. Don't forget the massacre that psycho Seung-Hui Cho delivered at Virginia Tech in 2007 with a Walther P22 in .22LR and a Glock 19 9mm. He killed 32 persons and injured many others with a very questionable caliber (.22LR) and the other is what some forum members consider the minimum (9mm). I don't support the massacre or agree with the perpetrators actions, I am just using it for reference so don't take it the wrong way. I despise the attacks at Virginia Tech!
"If you carry a gun, people will call you paranoid. That's ridiculous... If I have a gun, what in the hell do I have to be paranoid for?" [Clint Smith - Thunder Ranch]
If conditions changed I would most likely stick with one of these. I looked at a man, posted about it, where just one look at him made me say, "Mommy" and revert back to carrying my wheelie. It's an old thread, so you'll have to search for it. There are certain calibers, platforms, and loads I cling to, and I tend to carry them most often because I favor them. I look at things from a "worst case" scenario and dress according to that.
I realize I am guilty of some "magic bullet" influence here. My only argument is, if I have confidence in it, then it's the caliber for me. I don't think I'd be changing what I carry due to circumstances, but I may be inclined towards "Battlefield Pick-Ups". My guns will let me get a "Battlefield Pick-Up".
I have no crystal ball so I don't have anyway to determine "if the odds went up". I carry the same P229 odds up or down.
Add a jacket pocket J frame to my EDC, switch my primary to the off side and spend a lot of time with my hand in my pocket. With the increased threat I am not concerned so much with firepower or capacity and my edc and spare mags will cover that. What I do want is speed of deployment and few things are faster than a pocket gun, fired from the pocket.
"I do what I do." Cpl 'coach' Bowden, "Southern Comfort".
EDC = G26 plus one spare 10-rd mag, plus a LCP.
If the threat level is higher, I would (and have) carried a G19 mag as a spare, and add spare mags for the LCP as well. I also have the option of carrying my G19.
The number of people killed because they didn't have "enough gun" is dwarfed by those who had none at all. Get a gun you will always carry, and add more capability as you grow.
I would probably keep the 1911 as my primary, and add a j-frame BUG. I would not go out like I do sometimes with just the j-frame.
I'd also start keeping a shotgun or my AR in my truck, and my goal with the pistol would be to fight my way back to it.
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I usually carry either a G-23 or an XD9sc as primary weapon and a Ruger LCP or SP-101 as a BUG. However, I have on many occasions carried the G-23 as primary and XD9sc as the BUG.
If threat goes up I would probably ensure I went with the G-23/XD9sc set up. It has worked many times in the past and I have good holsters to carry both of them at the same time comfortably and with good concealment.
I would also have 2 hi-cap mag reloads for each gun instead of the usual 2 primary reloads and 1 BUG reload.
"The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, prey on those who without one, would surely perish."
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“No possible rapidity of fire can atone for habitual carelessness of aim with the first shot.”
Theodore Roosevelt, The Wilderness Hunter, 1893
As I understand the scenario, there are general economic conditions that make life in the US more risky pretty much everywhere. This eliminates the "if I thought I was going to a risky area, I just won't go." response.
My current rotation is one of the following: a 1911 with 2 spare mags (25 rounds of .45 on tap); a PT145 Pro with 1 spare mag (21 rounds of .45 on tap) or a J frame with 2 speed strips (15 rounds of .38 on tap). I would move my J frame from the rotation of primary weapons and make it a EDC BUG and be comfortable with either the 1911 or PT145 Pro as the primary.
If I really felt the conditions warranted it, I would carry my G21 with 2 spare mags (40 rounds of .45 on tap) and make the PT145 Pro my EDC BUG - it pocket carries just fine. But then, if I need 51 rounds of .45, we are in deep do do and the average life expectancy will be dramatically reduced. This is not a SHTF set up, but it is not too far from one.
I hope things don't get to this level, but you never know. If hyperinflation kicks in, all bets are off.
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You are only paranoid until you are right - then you are a visionary.
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I already carry that go to gun so no, it wouldn't affect me that way. Maybe pack my G17 as back up to my G19?
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So back on topic, I carry only 1911s. Not because I dislike other models, but because I have only one MoA to remember in any defensive situation. Same feel, same draw, same trigger. Draw, flick, bang, every time...
My EDC is either my CBOB (.45) or my CZ P-01 (9mm). Both replaced my CZ P-06 (.40) because of trouble with my wrist and the snappy recoil of the .40. In a situation where I thought there might be a higher chance of needing a gun, I would probably switch back to my P-06. Better ballistics than the 9mm and higher capacity than the .45.
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