If the odds went up, would it affect which gun you carry?
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The wife has commandeered the G23...
January 4th, 2011 08:38 PM
I carry only what I have; j-frame and 1911.
The wife has commandeered the G23
Trust in God and keep your powder dry
"A heavily armed citizenry is not about overthrowing the government; it is about preventing the government from overthrowing liberty. A people stripped of their right of self defense is defenseless against their own government." -source
January 4th, 2011 08:44 PM
I'd go from CCing my Glock 30 IWB and my Kahr in a pocket holster, to OCing my Hk USP wih TLR-2 and my Glock 30 as back-up. But for me to OC, there has to be a serious threat, because I'm not a fan of OC. Not in general. I actually like seeing people OC, which unfortunately isn't often around here, but I don't like OC for myself.... if that makes sense.
January 4th, 2011 08:52 PM
Yup , when involved in higher risk jobs I tend to arm myself a bit better than every day carry.
"In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." Thomas Jefferson
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January 4th, 2011 09:22 PM
if the you know what hits the fan...then i will not carry my normal one gun but probably 3 along with the "others" ....
January 4th, 2011 11:31 PM
Akimbo FiveSevens with 30 shot clips
January 5th, 2011 12:10 AM
Adding my two pence to the pile, yep... I'll dress "heavier" if I anticipate a higher risk.
For example - going to church, desert temps, no cover garment - a little Kel-Tec .32 is in the pocket.
Weekend breakfast at 7 am in our favorite local family restaurant, J frame in the pocket.
Daytime walk with the pups in the neighborhood, a compact 9 on the hip (CW9).
After dark walk with the dogs, or daytime shopping venture to Phoenix or unknown areas - Lightweight Commander on the hip.
Spare ammo is always part of the equation, greater perceived risk means an extra speedloader or mag above the usual.
Headed out of town for the weekend, the AR and patrol bandoleer are in the back of the wagon, plus a G23 and a buncha mags in the glove box. Because you just never know...
January 5th, 2011 12:53 AM
My job is risky EVERY DAY. There was a pizza guy robbed in my area right before Christmas, 3 robbers (I think only one gun though)
I guess I gotta say, if I didn't feel 13 rounds would do it, I'd have to change my EDC. I really am not counting on having time for a reload, but I've got 16 more if the first few didn't cut it.
If I thought the odds would go up higher than they already stand, I'd pack a BUG
I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I expect the same from them. -- John Wayne as John B. Books in "The Shootist"
January 5th, 2011 01:30 AM
"Beware of a man that has only one gun. He probably knows how to use it." My one gun is my Glock 23.
That said, I have been putting my new-to-me S&W 60 in my pocket, simply because I have it. It hardly seems a weapon to me.
The preceding post may contain sarcasm; it's just better that way. However, it is still intended with construction and with the Love of my L-rd Y'shua.
NRA Certified Pistol Instructor, World Drifter
January 5th, 2011 01:38 AM
Most "bottomfeeder" malfunctions are magazine related, hence the spare magazine.
Originally Posted by Tala
I would hope that anyone being shot at would be trying to find cover, or at least create distance. Even temporary cover behind a car, at the engine or tires or behind a telephone pole, may provide a momentary respite that allows one to recharge their weapon. This is why a spare magazine is a good idea. Also, while waiting for the trained emergency personnel to respond, what if the felonious actors return, or their buddies do? Also, the BUG can be located so that either hand can draw a weapon. Let's face it, as much as we'd like to never have anything occupy our primary hand that is not always feasible. I'm not picking on you, just bringing up more food for thought.
Most likely you will run out of time before you run out of bullets. I myself don't ever want to run out of bullets.
January 5th, 2011 02:19 AM
Concerning CCW/EDC my rotation guns are now my G23 and my 1911. I don't feel the need to upgrade either one where ever I go.
Even with that sometimes my AK 47 rides in the vehicle, but it is not my EDC.
January 5th, 2011 02:53 AM
Tala, whether you think you'll have time for a reload or not, I'm glad you carry a spare magazine anyway.
Originally Posted by Tala
Those who swear there isn't going to be time for a reload are either very short sighted or aren't thinking with an open mind tactically. There's no nicer way to put it.
The thing is, no one knows exactly how the dynamics of a lethal confrontation is going to play out. No one! You may expect to stand there static and trade shots with the bad guy until the gun runs dry, and that may happen. However, when the shots do start flying, I imagine most are going to be doing quite a lot of moving.
I love those who say, "Well if I can't get it done with what's in my gun then I'm dead anyway..." Well, yeah... You will be with that attitude! They have no rational excuse for why they won't or don't carry a spare reload, yet they still try to rationalize it... by golly they do try.
I tend to have more of a survival mindset, rather than a death wish. And after actual combat time, I know I don't want to die for lack of being able to shoot back. And I don't intend to either.
You never know how it's going to play out.
"The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, prey on those who without one, would surely perish."
January 5th, 2011 06:54 AM
Taking gasmitty's idea a little further, if I thought the risk was greater, I'd dress heavier, too... literally.
To touch on another thread, I wouldn't be worried about trying to hide a gun in gym shorts because I wouldn't be going out for gasoline or groceries wearing gym shorts, or any shorts for that matter. I'd be dressed more for a confrontation head to toe. One of the first things Farnam said in his class was to put your pants on if you think there's going to be trouble and it makes a lot of sense from a psychological point of view. And wearing jeans would not only allow me to carry one of my larger guns, it would allow me to add a BUG in an ankle holster. If going into the city for commodities is going to become an event, I'm going to dress the part.
January 5th, 2011 08:26 AM
Originally Posted by Cuda66
January 5th, 2011 09:32 AM
I don't think I'd switch out guns; I kind of bought my G19 to be an all-inclusive carry. I'd probably start carrying a second spare magazine though. It couldn't hurt.
January 5th, 2011 10:23 AM
I think if the odds went up, I would be more inclined to add capacity and bullet size.
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