Which is smaller - 3 inch 1911 or USP 40c?
I like to compare the relative sizes of guns, and recently surprised myself by comparing my H&K USP 40c, which I have had for awhile, to a newly acquired Colt Defender, a 1911 with 3 inch barrel. The Defender is comparable to a Kimber Ultra or a Springfield Micro. I thought the 3 inch 1911 would be smaller than the USP, but I got a surprise. Here is what I found:
1. Empty weight with magazine: Defender 24 oz., USP 24 oz.
2. Height, top of rear sight to bottom of magazine: Defender 5.00 in., USP 5.00 in. (both with standard magazine, no thumb rest, etc.)
3. Length of gun: Defender 6.90 in., USP 6.75 in. (Defender beavertail sticks out a bit, adding to length)
4. Grip width, maximum: Defender 1.25 in., USP 1.10 in. (Defender is single stack, USP double, but Defender has grip panels which add to width)
5. Slide width: Defender 0.90 in., USP 1.10 in.
6. Capacity: Defender 6+1 .45 ACP, USP 12+1 .40 S&W
Based on this, it appears that there is no substantial difference in concealment ability between these two. The Defender has an advantage in slide width, but the USP has an advantage in grip width and overall length. The weight is identical, as is the height of the gun. But the USP has a major advantage in capacity - 13 rounds of .40 compared to 7 rounds of .45 in the Defender.
Does this surprise anyone? It surprised me.
Reliability TRUMPS capacity
The USP also has a MAJOR advantage....RELIABILITY. I will NEVER again own a sub 4" 1911 (unless I shell out a couple of grand for a Cylinder & Slide "Adventurer" custom chop job)...EVER! I've owned lessee.....two....no THREE. They have ALL been constant jams, FTFs FTEs & stovepipes. Different brands. All "quality names." My IDPA club members tried to tell me and I kept saying that I had just had a run of "bad guns." Well, after the third time...I learned. The 1911, IMHO becomes a flawed design when the barrel shrinks beneath four inches. Look at the Wilson Custom shop. They will charge $100 for doing a "reliability" package on a sub 4" 1911...BUT they will NOT warranty the work. For those of you who worship at the feet of Jeff Cooper, he did a part of his "Cooper's Corner" column on this problem and he agrees.
Originally Posted by pogo2
Heck, I can't run an IDPA match with my GOVERNMENT model 1911 without a lube halfway through! But when I got my H&K USP 45 (fullsize) I did so because my best buddy, a retired SF 06 said that if he had to choose any gun to take to WAR right out of the box, it'd be the USP 45 fullsize.
So I decided to test that assertion. I decided to take the gun and shoot it until it jammed on me. I did not clean it or LUBE it. It had only the factory lube when I started this informal "test." Well......TWO THOUSAND ROUNDS LATER....she was still humming along.....and I had to clean her out of sheer respect. None of my 1911's could have done that. Maybe a Glock could. But the H&K just ROCKED. I should know better than to second guess my friend.:bier: