S&W clones the Judge; Taurus raises the stakes with a Raging 28 gauge

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    Price of sigmas, body guards, and now this.... S&W is trying to burry Taurus! I just hope they don't de-value all there good stuff doing it.
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    Does Smith & Wesson have any "good stuff" in their revolver catalog at this point?

    I'll just remain grateful for all the classic, traditional Smith & Wesson revolvers available on the used market. Dumbed-down gargantuan .410 revolvers are an embarrassment.
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    Here is a better photo of the 28 gauge Judge.

    So far, I still cannot find any new 28 gauge ammo with anything but small birdshot in it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 10thmtn View Post
    Yawn. More copying and "me too" products.
    Yeah. Just like all of those car makers. They all should have butted out and let Henry Ford make all of the cars. And hey, what about all of those copy-cat AR 15 makers? Or, how about all of those 1911's. There are way too many of those! (Oops. I'm starting to sound like the Brady Bunch. )

    The "judge" identified a very lucrative market, and some folks think that S&W makes a better product than Taurus. S&W is simply going for their market share based on their market research and I wish them luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmcgilvray View Post
    Does Smith & Wesson have any "good stuff" in their revolver catalog at this point?

    I'll just remain grateful for all the classic, traditional Smith & Wesson revolvers available on the used market. Dumbed-down gargantuan .410 revolvers are an embarrassment.
    still have?? yes I believe they do, you can still order quality pieces from them, but they do seem to offer more cheap stuff than I would like.
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    Now that is just ugly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LanceORYGUN View Post

    So far, I still cannot find any new 28 gauge ammo with anything but small birdshot in it.
    Well both Winchester and Federal produce specialty rounds for the .410 handgun now... I wonder who will release the first 28 gauge personal defense buckshot round.
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    when they come out with a 12 gauge, I'll buy a shotshell handgun.
    There is something about firing 4,200 thirty millimeter rounds/min that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadeAngel View Post
    Well both Winchester and Federal produce specialty rounds for the .410 handgun now... I wonder who will release the first 28 gauge personal defense buckshot round.
    But then how on earth will they sell this 28 gauge pistol until then? Who will want a handgun that has no ammo available for it?

    Perhaps this pistol has only been designed for people that are tormented by snakes and rabbits. That is about all that small birdshot is ideal for.

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    How do they get around the NFA? The Judge is technicaly a .45 Colt pistol with a rifled barrel. I can't figure out how a 28ga is anything but a SBS, with the added $200 tax stamp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhouse 15 View Post
    How do they get around the NFA? The Judge is technicaly a .45 Colt pistol with a rifled barrel. I can't figure out how a 28ga is anything but a SBS, with the added $200 tax stamp.
    I was wondering the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhouse 15 View Post
    How do they get around the NFA? The Judge is technicaly a .45 Colt pistol with a rifled barrel. I can't figure out how a 28ga is anything but a SBS, with the added $200 tax stamp.

    Very good point and question. How can they do this?

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    I'm not saying it's hard to do or anything, but a lot of people don't understand or think it's hard to buy NFA guns. I don't think anyone will want to wait three or four months and pay an extra $200 to own this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhouse 15 View Post
    How do they get around the NFA? The Judge is technicaly a .45 Colt pistol with a rifled barrel. I can't figure out how a 28ga is anything but a SBS, with the added $200 tax stamp.
    Could it possibly handle the .500 S&W magnum cartridge? Looks like the 28 gauge shell is close to .50 caliber in size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crzy4guns View Post
    Could it possibly handle the .500 S&W magnum cartridge? Looks like the 28 gauge shell is close to .50 caliber in size.

    If I do the math right a 28 is .55 inches or 14mm.
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