My First CCW
This is a discussion on My First CCW within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; We purchased our first handgun a few months back (Glock 21SF) and absolutely LOVE it. I say we because my wife loves it as much ...
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February 8th, 2011 03:56 PM
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My First CCW
We purchased our first handgun a few months back (Glock 21SF) and absolutely LOVE it. I say we because my wife loves it as much as I do and it has been deemed her carry weapon. We both get pretty good grouping on it, even with stock sights. Now with it being a double-stack .45 and a glock, as many others have said prior, it prints in clothing easily (with the holster I have...possible holster is contributing) to its bulk and therefore pretty much eliminates it as a CCW w/out having to use the jacket/trenchcoat (Atlanta + coat = not happening except in Jan-Feb).
I'd like to stay w/ a .45 because of price point. We're not going to be moving to reloading ANY time in the near future, if ever. So having ammo that we both use for range and defense is important.
That being said...I'd like if at all possible to be under $700.
Now the additional delimma or whatever you wanna call it is that I'm a chunky dude (6'1", 245). Not gunna lie...my gut ends up pushing my pants below my waste quite often, even when I crank my belt as tight as I can. This plus a loaded 21SF will result in my gun not being the only thing no longer concealed given the right circumstances.
As a member of a local gun club/range, I get unlimited rentals at no extra charge. I'd like to get some solid recommendations, grab a box of .45 ACP, and go through the rentals to see which fits my hand the best. I'm just simply not aware of the options w/in my price point.
Thanks in advance.
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February 8th, 2011 03:56 PM
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February 8th, 2011 04:08 PM
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Oh boy do you have some good ones in your price point.
Glock 30 or the smaller 36
M&P 45c
Springfield XD 45 Compact
Kahr CW45
Just to name a few really good ones.
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February 8th, 2011 04:19 PM
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Thx for the quick reply. I took this list down and about to head to the SSGC to see which I like.
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February 8th, 2011 04:20 PM
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Might want to add some Perry suspenders. This will help a good bit at keeping the pants up. So will a gun belt.
Adding to the above - I really like the way my Taurus PT145 Mil Pro conceals. Some will flame me because it is a Taurus, but I have had no troubles from it. Overall size is about the same as a J frame only a bit thinner.
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February 8th, 2011 04:28 PM
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Don't rule out the 1911 pistols either. Springfield and others make models that fall in your price range.
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February 8th, 2011 04:35 PM
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Out of all the recommendations I say Glock 36. I am a revolver guy, but my next purchase is gonna be the G36.
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February 8th, 2011 04:39 PM
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You already know the G21 and, apparently like it except for the CC aspect, so the G30 or G36 may be a natural choice. If you have no concerns with the double-stacked grip of the 21, then I'd go for the G30, which can use the G21 mags in a pinch. 10 rds are almost as good as 13.
While the G36 is only slightly thinner, it's a good option if you don't mind giving up four rounds.
I can relate to your size, can carry my G30 IWB in shorts and T, and I don't think the thinner G36 will make much of a difference.
I have found that the M&P points more naturally than the Glocks, but seeing as I can tear up a paper plate at 15 yards, I'm in no hurry to change guns at this point. It may be worth trying both and seeing which shoots better.

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February 8th, 2011 04:58 PM
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Although a bit higher than your price point, I'd suggest you check out an HK USP .45C or HK 45C and see what you think.
They are extremely reliable, durable and very accurate.
Good luck with your search. Enjoy it!
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February 8th, 2011 05:05 PM
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I think the Kahr is likely the thinnest on your list... aren't they right about an 1" thick? For me the thinner the gun the easier to carry. Check out a Kahr PM45 or P45 as well...
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February 8th, 2011 06:07 PM
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February 8th, 2011 06:19 PM
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Glock 30 all the way baby!!!! cant go wrong with it... i love mine.
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February 8th, 2011 06:40 PM
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I love my G30. I carry it concealed all day, come home and replace the mag with a G21 magazine (with a +1 round extender on it) and put my TRL-1 Streamlight on it, and it sleeps next to me.
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February 8th, 2011 07:35 PM
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Something in a used commander sized 1911, like a scandium frame SW1911. You already have a Glock....might as well branch out.
If Commander is too big, look for a used defender size 1911 like a Kimber UCII or a SA Micro Compact.
Anyway, just my $0.02, nothing against Glock, I like'em, just I like variety too! :D
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February 8th, 2011 07:51 PM
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For a guy his size, I would say there is no need to go with a micro compact type of gun like the Springfield, or the Kahr.
Besides, shooting full power 45 loads is not much fun in a really small gun.
If he does want to go the smaller gun route, then I would recommend either a Concealed Carry Officers ( CCO ) 1911 with a 4 inch barrel and short frame, or a Sig P220 Compact, which is basically identical in size to that, but offers a DA/SA trigger pull instead.
However, these guns are all also getting outside his $700 limit on price.
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February 8th, 2011 08:50 PM
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I have a number of Glocks, the Glock-36 is my EDC.
Either the Glock-36 or the Glock-30 would fill the bill...
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