This is a discussion on About Mass Produced Guns within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; So back to my earlier question, what are the premium brands? Originally Posted by SIXTO I think it boils down to the individuals definition of ...
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I am a bit lost on the argument SIG Glock Chevy BMW ////// They are all mass produced...........
As for the guns, as long as it works well for you and isn't on the low end like a high point, go for it.
My buddy has an H&K that though it is a great gun, performed just as well as my old Ruger P90. Whose pistol will last the test of time, who knows?
But, your other thread http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...d.php?t=119754 leads me to believe that you are looking for a compact carry gun. That is another ball game entirely. I think you are confusing yourself and clouding judgment by casting to wide of a net with out identifying your target. There are just to many choices.
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I am buying pm9, now looking for a high quality full size 9mm sa that is lefty friendly. Thanks
Glock G17 or G19, Sig P226, S&W M&P9, Beretta 92F are full size models to consider...
G19 is one that fits into the full size/compact category. It's one of the best 9's out there IMO.
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PS. I have a Glock 17 for a full size / home defense gun and I love it. My brother has a Beretta 92fs and I love it even more.
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Ok Glock 19 or XDM what are the pluses and minuses?
When your looking at guns, unless price is of absolutely no concern, there are plenty of good guns across a wide range of pricing. They all go bang, they all will last the lifetime of most shooters if maintained properly. It really all depends on what you want from the gun. Some low to mid priced guns run as good or better than some of the over priced guns. I say overpriced because if they are 2, 3, 4 times as expensive as their counterparts but don't work better or as well then your simply spending money on a name.
Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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"Mass produced" as a derisive term probably originated back (1960's) when the Japanese started flooding the market with all kinds of products made on first-generation production lines that could produce huge numbers of widgits of mediocre (or worse) quality. Times change. It's the 21st century.
We all get a warm fuzzy when we hear a term like "hand crafted" or such. Who doesn't equate "Swiss watchmaker" with quality? But the Swiss watchmaking industry want down the tubes because "mass produced" electronic watches came out that keep better time at 1/20 the price (or less), and no maintenance. The fact is, with modern manufacturing techniques, CNC, laser measurement, etc., no human craftsman can match the quality of a state-of-the art production line, at least not at anything approaching a comparable price. That's not to say that there isn't still mass-produced junk out there, but "hand-crafted" no longer equates to "better".
As I posted earlier on another thread, NO gun is worth $1500+ solely on the basis of it's mechanical merits, when you can buy something for $500 that will perform just as well, and last just as long. It's collectibility and/or intangible qualities that make the high-dollar guns worth the price (for some). I like a higher-end piece just as much as the next guy, but I have no illusions (delusions?) about why I buy them.
If I have a sudden, urgent need for a .357 Magnum, do I really care if it's my Python, a 686, or an SP101? Probably not. Will the Python serve me "better" at that critical moment? No. But I sure like it better!
In the 21st century, "mass produced" probably means "higher quality" rather than "junk". OK, off my soapbox...
The car analogy does not work for guns because the cost of raw materials is pretty insignificant.
A better analogy is Jeans. You can buy a crappy pair of jeans, or you can buy a decent pair. Among the decent pairs, you can choose to spend more for a specific name brand but it's not actually any better.
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