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    About Mass Produced Guns

    Curious, i was a sporting goods store salesman an older guy, former cop, marines etc, tells me that glock, SA XDM, are all mass produced generic guns and nothing special. XDM he says has "too much inside that can wear down." he says Sig, H&K, Kimber etc all much better choices for the up cost. I'm still on the learning curve here, was this guy full of it or bluntly truthful?

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    God some gun store salesmen are better served just shutting up.

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    Is a BMW really a better car than a Chevy?

    They both get you where you need to go, and if taken care of they both will last you a long long time.
    Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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    Yeah he's full of it. Theres some truth to wear and durability vs. cost but not always, mostly just on the extreme end of cheap does that come into play (i.e. Hi-point). What really matters is fit, finish, and preference. I own an HK USP compact in .40 S&W and I bought my Dad a Glock 23 (same caliber, same size). The HK is normally much more expensive (I got a special deal with mine though) and I prefer it as a more refined gun. Both are equaly reliable but I prefer the fit, finish and feel of my HK, and in 1600+ rounds its ALWAYS gone bang. Is it worth the 200-300 dollar premium to the Glock? Thats debatable. I think the Glock is a better value, but I'll take my HK. I would never put money down that a Sig or HK will last longer than an XD or Glock, or visa versa. All the guns you listed are good guns with unique characteristics, but provided you don't get a lemon they would all serve you. Pick the one that fits your hand and you like best for your application (carry, Home defense, etc).

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    He is probably on a commission. If he can convince you to pay $700 to $1,200 for a gun he eats better than if you spend $400 to $600. His arguments are nonsense except for the commission angle.
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    The fact that he said Kimber is a better choice made me spit up my soda. LOL

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    What an jerk!

    The only thing he said that was right -- HK makes the best production pistols available today, IMO.
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    His comments are baseless. Here's a fact for you though that most people don't realize: just because a person was a LEO/Marine/Soldier/Sailor or what have you DOES NOT make them an expert in all things firearm related. Most people in the military know how to use the standard issue weapons of their branch, and I know for a fact that a friend of mine in the USN was only trained with the Mossberg 500 and M9 and was clueless in the use and operation of the AR-15/M16 weapons platform. Now if the person was some sort of operator or was in one of the distinctly elite branches of the armed services (SEAL, Force Recon, etc.) then I might take their word on weapons that they had personally used and trained on.

    I'm a research and hands on kind of guy. Research points you in the right direction, and hands on time will flesh the details out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farronwolf View Post
    Is a BMW really a better car than a Chevy?

    They both get you where you need to go, and if taken care of they both will last you a long long time.
    Excellent point.

    But you and I both know driving the BMW is much more fun. Probably safer too.
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    Unbelievable. I do like the BMW/Chevy analogy. A 92FS..all metal and crafted by skilled machinists is the same price as a Glock, a polymer designed, technological breakthrough in firearms. Both mass produced, both a good value, both tougher than nails. Ruger's especially a P-95 are downright affordable and is renowned for durability and longevity. If you stick with reputable manufacturers regardless of the price, you will have a fine firearm. I own a SIG (it's mass-produced by the way) and it's an excellent firearm, but so are the others. Sorry to hear about XD's, I just bought one of those too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coltman 77 View Post
    But you and I both know driving the BMW is much more fun. Probably safer too.
    Depends on which Beemer and which Chevy. A Vette will out fun any Beemer and I would rather get hit in a Suburban than most any Beemer. Now a Beemer over a Cobalt, I see your point.
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    You can keep all of those, gimme a jeep or toyota so I can reliably low and slow it over the roughest terrain. Which is why I prefer Glock or Sig

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    Unless your talking thousands of dollars for a custom built gun, they are all mass produced.

    Don't worry about the sales counter expert, get what you can afford and works for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coltman 77 View Post
    Excellent point.

    But you and I both know driving the BMW is much more fun. Probably safer too.

    I don't know, a new Camaro SS would be an awful lot of fun.
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    You should have told him about the Glock and XD torture testing with 1000's of rounds. Heck you should have shown him the Hi-Point torture testing on You Tube !!! God Bless

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