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A Few of the things I Like

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmcgilvray View Post
    ... repackaged systems that are designed primarily for inexpensive manufacture and are produced in more different kinds of non-traditional materials. They all still shoot metallic cartridges and are functionally no better than earlier repeating designs that use the same metallic cartridges.
    Well, I understand your attitude, but you are greatly mistaken in some regards. HK pistols, for the best example, are NOT "repackaged systems"... and are leagues more reliable and durable than any 1911 ever built. Lots of folks are in denial over this... but it ain't a river in Egypt.

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    "HK pistols... are leagues more reliable and durable than any 1911 ever built."


    Saying it's so doesn't make it so.
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    Ruger SP101, LCR, Glock, Springfield XDsc, and Kahr are all great. Never owned a 1911, nothing against them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmcgilvray View Post
    "HK pistols... are leagues more reliable and durable than any 1911 ever built."


    Saying it's so doesn't make it so.
    Like I said... lots of denial...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICTsnub View Post
    Dang, I got everything on you list but the Glock, those plastic guns will never catch on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSP972 View Post
    Like I said... lots of denial...

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    Then I am too. For the word reliable to mean anything, it must be defined. Put a ninja sword in the hands of an Apache warrior, and he may want the tomahawk back, or his bow and arrows. Likewise, give the Ninja a tomahawk, and he may have issues. The older I get, and the more experience I have under my belt, the more I see how totally ignorant are the arguements made on this subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSP972 View Post
    Like I said... lots of denial...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSP972 View Post
    Well, I understand your attitude, but you are greatly mistaken in some regards. HK pistols, for the best example, are NOT "repackaged systems"... and are leagues more reliable and durable than any 1911 ever built. Lots of folks are in denial over this... but it ain't a river in Egypt.

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    I have been saying for some time that I love the feel of steel. All I have at this time is steel. I must admit though, I have handled a Ruger .380 and I am tempted to try one. However, still have not brought myself to do it yet............Maybe next time........
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    Sigh.

    The information source is 20+ years of actively teaching firearms, conducting and participating in training/qualifications, going to various matches, and shooting everything I could get my hands on. For one example, just go to any big USPSA match, and see how many 1911s choke compared to "name" plastic pistols.

    Hey, I'm a traditionalist too, in some regards. I understand the nostalgia angle, the "feel" of steel and walnut, etc., etc. But I also know what I have seen.

    You want a valid, credible source? Okay... check out the 50,000 round test Todd Louis Green (Pistol Training.com) did with an HK45. Google it; or not. Basically, it had like one or two malfs TOTAL, and no parts breakage IIRC.

    Do you honestly believe a 1911 would do that UNDER THE SAME CONDITIONS? I.e., very infrequent cleaning, etc. I don't think so, Tim.

    Sorry to have twisted ya'll's knickers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSP972 View Post
    Sigh.

    The information source is 20+ years of actively teaching firearms, conducting and participating in training/qualifications, going to various matches, and shooting everything I could get my hands on. For one example, just go to any big USPSA match, and see how many 1911s choke compared to "name" plastic pistols.

    Hey, I'm a traditionalist too, in some regards. I understand the nostalgia angle, the "feel" of steel and walnut, etc., etc. But I also know what I have seen.

    You want a valid, credible source? Okay... check out the 50,000 round test Todd Louis Green (Pistol Training.com) did with an HK45. Google it; or not. Basically, it had like one or two malfs TOTAL, and no parts breakage IIRC.

    Do you honestly believe a 1911 would do that UNDER THE SAME CONDITIONS? I.e., very infrequent cleaning, etc. I don't think so, Tim.

    Sorry to have twisted ya'll's knickers...

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    How about adding a lever action 30-30 in the closet and the shotgun under the bed. What's your shotgun choice?

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    I don't like anything you like.

    I don't like anything you like.

    You've made many poor choices. There are many fine firearms that are outside the weird list you posted. So what we can say is that you have told us what purchases you've made.

    And that's normal. People buy guns, and after laying out that much money they get committed to them and emotionally attached and then they try to convince everybody else that these were good decisions.

    Except maybe they aren't.

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    "Sigh. The information source is 20+ years of actively teaching firearms, conducting and participating in training/qualifications, going to various matches, and shooting everything I could get my hands on."

    Incredibly enough, there are folks right here on the Forum who have been doing all that stuff even longer than 20+ years. More than one of them are likely even posting in this thread.


    "I don't like anything you like."

    So...what do you like?

    "You've made many poor choices."

    Since you waded off into the deep end perhaps you would explain why the choices are poor and the list is weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmcgilvray View Post
    "Sigh. The information source is 20+ years of actively teaching firearms, conducting and participating in training/qualifications, going to various matches, and shooting everything I could get my hands on."

    Incredibly enough, there are folks right here on the Forum who have been doing all that stuff even longer than 20+ years. More than one of them are likely even posting in this thread.


    "I don't like anything you like."

    So...what do you like?

    "You've made many poor choices."

    Since you waded off into the deep end perhaps you would explain why the choices are poor and the list is weird.
    I would like to know it too. I think the list the OP posted is pretty good. I only disagree with it when he says that the Glock if the best platform for the 9mm; I prefer the BHP, but that is just a personal choice.

    shockwave: for your information, I do own a 9mm Glock.
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