Basics of shooting?

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    Basics of shooting?

    I have been around guns since I was a child.. and Im not a bad shot. However, I have never had any technical training on shooting per se beyond hunting and range practice. I dont have a set schedule for my shooting habits. Would like to know from a LEO or military or tactical specialist etc..so I can improve on areas in which I personally lack. The question is what are the basic steps for proper target aquisition and physical form? I know Ive heard a million times to "keep my wrists locked" and arm stiff. I use a Glock 27. Definitely an "amatuer" question, but oh well. ;)

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    From the training that I have been through at the PD there are many styles and tactics that we practice. Far to many to list. The biggest advice I can give is practice often and always concentrate on your front sights. Also do some point shooting practice. This is not using your sights but just draw and shoot.

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    Get a copy of Ayoob's 'Stress Fire'.
    Keep the shotgun handy!!

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    "squeeeze" the trigger slowly and let the gun "surprise" you when it goes off. This will prevent you from fighting or over anticipating the recoil. Practice practice.
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    Fantastic reading

    Below is a site that has some information:

    http://bullseyepistol.com/amucover.htm

    Really recommend it for reading. Hey, the cost is great - FREE.

    Of course, the article is for military bullseye shooting but great info in it. I got to looking at it again, and I think I'll reread it once more.
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    This vid was posted a month or two ago, thought it would be appropriate to help you out.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...1363&q=Jarrett

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    Blueyedevil....excellent video.
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    There are a ton of good books out there, I went to Pat Godale's class in West Virginia, I'll put the link below. He is a former Marine weapons instructor as well as N.R.A. and a host of other qualificatins.

    It would be a drive, but worth it if you would be up this way.

    The one best tip he gave for us "Glock" types. After you fire a round, hold the trigger back, slowley release it till you feel the click, then slowley add pressure when ready for the follow up shot. This help a ton with the Loooooooooooong trigger pull.

    Oh yeah, Dry fire, is great too. It helps get rid of flinch.

    Check out Pat Godale here
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    That is a great video!

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridaguy911
    I know Ive heard a million times to "keep my wrists locked" and arm stiff. I

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    Hmmmm???? This goes against everything I've ever been taught. How do others feel about this bit of info????


    If you keep your arms locked, and don't obtain perfect sight alignment/sight picture and acquire your target within a few seconds, you'll start to shake due to muscle fatigue. I'll see if I can dig up some info.
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    floridaguy911,

    I am not sure what you are asking for. If you want to know what to practice, I provided a short list below. It is by no means all inclusive. If you want to know how to do these things, my advise would be to find a qualified instructor.

    Things to Practice
    Accuracy
    Engage a single target from the ready position
    Engage a single target from the holster
    Engage a single target with multiple rounds
    Engage multiple targets
    Reload your weapon (In-battery/out-of-battery)
    Engage a target with one hand only (dominant hand/non-dominant hand)
    Malfunction clearance (immediate action/remedial action)

    Structure your practice sessions. The key is to have a mechanism to measure performance and then record your performance in a shooting log. This is usually accomplished by using a combination of accuracy (the size of the target) and time (using a shooting timer). Over time you can identify those skills where your performance is lacking and focus on improving them. As you improve you can either decrease the size of the target or decrease the amount of time.

    Once you get the basics down, then you can combine them to make more complicated drills. For example, engage multiple targets from the holster with the dominant hand only.

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    Hmmmm???? This goes against everything I've ever been taught. How do others feel about this bit of info????

    If you keep your arms locked, and don't obtain perfect sight alignment/sight picture and acquire your target within a few seconds, you'll start to shake due to muscle fatigue.
    In my expereince, locking the arms exaggerates the felt recoil and delays follow-up shots. I do not lock my arms but I do fully extend them to a point just short of locking them. The muscles of my upper arms, shoulder and back are then able to help absorb/manage the recoil.

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    Excellent advice here. I would suggest you attend some of the seminars given at your local club by some of the pro's.

    Find one that suites your shooting needs.

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    Take a course. Find a local defensive shooting class and take it, there is absolutely no replacement for hands on shooting with a professional instructor. Like you I've been shooting since I could walk, but never had any formal instruction until two weeks ago. I took a basic handgun course with my cousin, who is a complete newbie, and learned more in eight hours than I had on my own in the past 23 years. It was well worth it and now I can't wait to go take the next course.
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    I think that there is only so much you can read about and learn. You really need to have a knowledgable individual go over the basics and demonstrate them to you and then watch you shoot.

    From there, he can help you adjust and correct where you are wrong.

    Otherwise, you might think you are doing right and get into bad habits that are hard to break.

    The only way to insure that you are correct in your training is to shoot and make adjustments accordingly.

    Practice alone dosent make perfect. Perfect Practice makes perfect.
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    Thanks Kurt. Im 27 and am very much interested in training classes. Ive googled them for local areas but havent had much success YET.

    Blackhawk, thank you very much sir. That is basically what I was generally asking for. One term I am not familiar with is "in battery/out of battery" thats the only thing though. If you care to clarify, feel free. I also heard that point shooting would not be a bad idea to look into or practice on especially for self defense due to the fact that you cant always get into a strong stance with both hands on the weapon, or maybe cant even extend your one arm out totally depending on the distance and nature of the threat.
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