Need some help on this decision...
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So I ...
April 29th, 2011 03:14 AM
Need some help on this decision...
*EDIT* Wow, no idea how I managed that typo. It's supposed to read "Need some help on this decision" (Fixed it for you.)
So I purchased a basically new Glock 22 (very lightly used) about a week ago. I am generally able to conceal it, but am starting to think that maybe a smaller Glock would be a good idea.
I'm relatively big at 6'2", and am a pretty average size (not fat but not super skinny either). I have big hands as well.
As of now, the Glock 22 can be concealed under just a light shirt over a T-shirt, both covering the gun which is situated inside the waistband. However, as summer approaches, there will likely be some days where anything more than a T-shirt is too much. I live in Oregon, so most days aren't super hot, but there are stretches where it is quite hot.
I took a look at the Glock 27 as I've heard so many people talking about it and found that it was way too small for me to grip comfortably (big hands) - this is with the grip extentions Therefore, the gun I'm currently looking at is the Glock 23.
My funds are low, being a college student, so I'd be trading in the Glock 22 for the Glock 23.
My dilemma is that in every regard besides concealment, I like the Glock 22 better. It fits my large hands nicely and I find it easy to control. The Glock 23 is just big enough that I can grip it okay, though not as comfortably as the Glock 22 (my pinky finger lies right on the floor plate of the magazine). In addition, I found it a bit harder to control, which I assume can be corrected through practice.
Looking at the 23 and 22 side by side, the size differences appear very minute. I haven't had the chance to carry the 23 or the 19 for that matter as I've never owned one, so I don't know how differently they'd carry.
My question is, is the better concealment of the Glock 23 worth sacrificing a little bit of grip comfort (I can still get a full grip on the 23, just not as full of a grip as I can on the 22), capacity and sight radius? Will that 1/2 an inch make much of a difference? If the difference is significant, then I may be willing to sacrifice a little bit of shooting comfort. If it's negligible, then probably not.
Maybe I'm just overreacting - I can basically conceal the G22 under a white T-shirt with a minor amount of printing (probably wouldn't carry that way though, a little too much printing for my tastes).
At either rate, any advice or opinions would be appreciated.
Last edited by rstickle; April 29th, 2011 at 07:17 AM.
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April 29th, 2011 03:41 AM
I think the 19/23 size Glock is just about perfect for concealment. I also have a 26 but the grip is short, especially for us with big hands. I used to think the 26 was the best choice for CC, but the I always seem to carry the 19 at night or whenever my travels took into questionable places. If I was in your place, I would trade the 22 for a 23, without hesitation. You won't be disappointed.
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April 29th, 2011 05:03 AM
Well the first priority is how the gun feels, fits and functions for you. The second priority is how it conceals. You can get a handgun that can conceal in the watch pocket of your jeans but if you can't shoot it well or it does not fit you it is not really a lot of use to you.
The size difference between the two is not much it is just a matter of selecting the right clothing to do the job. Remember you dress around the gun you are carrying at the time.
Depending on your style that you like to wear go up a size in t shirts, switch to a darker color, buy a couple of lightweight polo shirts.
You really do not have to change handguns because of the weather you just adjust what you wear. Holsters do not have to be super high tech, custom leather stuff. You can find good kydex holsters IWB/OWB for less than $20.00 that would do everything you need to do.
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April 29th, 2011 02:24 PM
As a rule of thumb in concealed carry, small changes can make a big difference. A half inch in grip length can make concealed a cake walk. A half inch difference on where you place your holster on your belt (the O'Clock position) can make it so comfortable you forget it's there or it could make you walk like Frankenstein. Trial and error will help you find the "sweet spot" on your belt.
As others have said, the 19 is one of the most common concealed carried handguns and the 23 is the same size as the 19.
Don't forget to wear shirts that have a pattern of some sort, Hawaiian prints will cover a ton of printing but even a simple dark shirt will go far.
April 30th, 2011 03:05 AM
Thanks for the responses. Generally, if a Glock 22 prints in a certain clothing, will a Glock 23 be likely to print as well, with maybe a half an inch less of print?
If so, then there's probably no point in my trading away the Glock 22. Basically, I'm wondering if, in your experiences at least, the size reduction of the Glock 23 is worth the hassle of trading for it.
April 30th, 2011 04:39 AM
I have been going through the same dilema as the OP. I also have a g22 and have been considering trading it for the g23. I was standing in the shop holding both guns and I just couldnt justify trading my g22 off that I love so much. I may consider eventually buying the g23 on down the road but as far as trading one for the other, I think I'll stick with my g22.
April 30th, 2011 06:03 AM
in my opinion it is not worth the trade off, just work with different holsters and positions on your belt and it will dissappear once you find the right combo, if i can conceal a .44 mag in a T-shirt and jeans, you can conceal a Glock 22
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April 30th, 2011 06:09 AM
Try some darker colored or patterned t-shirts, which will conceal better than white.
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April 30th, 2011 06:16 AM
What he said. I'd keep the G22 and later, when you have funds, buy a 23.
Originally Posted by MattInFla
I don't think it's too big of a deal to print a little. People are not very observant.
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April 30th, 2011 06:39 AM
Wow, are you talking about the full length .44 mag?
Originally Posted by INccwchris
How do you do that? I'm new to this whole CCW thing so I'm still trying to figure stuff out.
April 30th, 2011 07:22 PM
A good gunbelt and a Pure Kustom Black Ops Pro will have you concealing that G22 no sweat.
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