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    AMT backup .45 acp

    High standard now selling these again. Are the new ones any better than the originals? Any one got a new one?

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    You've come to the right place. 'Los' did some due diligence here: My Primary will soon be my Back Up (and vice-versa)
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    WHEC, THANKS for the reference.

    Sailor,

    It's my understanding that HS is basically selling old stock Galena Industries made [large bore] Back Ups. The Galena Back Up was designed and manufactured with a firing pin safety block that was plagued with issues. There was a propensity for the firing pin to contact the safety block after hammer strike, which led to light primer strikes and many broken firing pins.

    You may want to call HS and ask if their Back Ups come with the safety block.

    I own an original AMT Back Up 45 [ no firing pin safety block] that has been extremely reliable. It even rapid fire feeds 185 gr. wadcutter loads without issue.

    To date, the Back Up 45 remains the smallest 45 ACP semi-automatic pistol ever made.

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    Always felt they would work with some twiking Already ordered a don Hume iwb for it. Now to locate a firearm. Afraid of purchasing an early addition because too many people cut springs and put dremels to them. Wwhat you say of the galena models makes sense so if the new ones are galena I'll probably get an older one in good shape.

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    I agree. Stay away from Galena made Back Ups.

    FYI, original [large bore] AMT Back Ups will have a s/n prefix of DA or DL.

    Also, there's a few places where you can still purchase parts. Wolff Springs sells a [heavier] recoil spring for the BU.45, too.
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    You were right I called hi standard and their backups have the firing pin safety block. Found one for 325.00 dl prefix the man says no rust or large scratches. Will look at it on saturday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by los View Post
    To date, the Back Up 45 remains the smallest 45 ACP semi-automatic pistol ever made.
    There is/was a smaller "pump-action" .45 auto, but you are correct, it isn't semi-auto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OD* View Post
    There is/was a smaller "pump-action" .45 auto, but you are correct, it isn't semi-auto.
    The Semmerling LM4.

    I purchased two of those a few years back at an estate auction. Sold them to an Arizona collector shortly thereafter.

    I should have kept one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor man View Post
    You were right I called hi standard and their backups have the firing pin safety block. Found one for 325.00 dl prefix the man says no rust or large scratches. Will look at it on saturday.
    Sounds good, Sailor. $325 is a decent asking price. Ask if it comes with the original plastic case, operator's manual and/or with additional magazines.
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    The Semmerling LM4.


    Yep...you should have kept one. Have you seen what they are selling for now? The vintage ones are astronomical and the newer ones by American Derringer are also VERY pricey.
    I'd love to own one.

    BTW The LM4 was a 4 shot .45acp repeater. It was not a semi-automatic.
    The slide needed to be manually racked FORWARD for every shot.
    It would fit on top of a standard size playing card. Pretty doggone tiny.
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    Never saw a B/U .45 that actually worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranburr View Post
    Never saw a B/U .45 that actually worked.
    Out of over 180,000 Back Ups made, how many did you actually see.?
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    I have the new Hi Standard one.




    I think I'll reserve judgment untill they try to make it right
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    Quote Originally Posted by PDKER89 View Post
    I have the new Hi Standard one.

    I think I'll reserve judgment untill they try to make it right
    What you have is an [old stock] Galena Industries model that was sold by HS. HS just milled the Slide sides a few millimeters and then roll marked their company name.

    You're probably experiencing light primer strikes and FTF issues?
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    well then the must have re serialized it as well {I have a number less then 90}

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