Can it be? Tangle with a Kimber Pro Carry?? pic heavy - Supplemental in OP
I thought this would be worth adding. I also added it in post #23. And I will admit this did have some influence on my decision. I found this several places on the web:
"The Tacoma, Washington Police Department recently completed a testing program to determine what pistol their officers would carry. The test involved nine brands, 39 models and three calibers of semi-automatic pistols. Kimber won, and officers now have the option of selecting a Kimber Pro Carry II or Pro Carry HD II for duty.
The test results are staggering. Other than Kimber, pistols had a failure rate as high as 22%. Kimber had the lowest failure rate Tacoma PD has recorded in over 20 years of testing for any type of firearm – less than one half of one percent! They also determined that the Kimber was safer than other test pistols when the safety was in the “on” position."
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At the range the other day a guy walked up to me and handed me a Kimber Ultra Carry and a mag full of ammo. Well, I grabbed it and shot it before he could change his mind. Although the Ultra is small and light (AL alloy frame) it shot great, nice trigger response, mild recoil (much to my surprise) and quite accurate!
So I think, hmmm, I’ve been needing to trade one of my guns and I sure do like that Kimber. But I wanted a 4” barrel instead of the 3” on the Ultra and I started looking around town. The only thing I could find with a 4” barrel was a Kimber Pro Carry at Benton’s Shooting Supply – 32 miles from my house but a beautiful drive. So I load up my dog, Tangle, and my wife and we’re off on a family outing!
The Kimber Pro Carry is a 1911 style gun with an AL alloy frame, a 4" barrel, and full size grip. It weighs 28 oz - the same as a Sig P229, but of course the Pro is a single stack and holds 7 or 8 rounds depending on which mag capacity you trust the most.
As do all Kimbers, it comes with one black 7 round magazine. This particular Pro is the Pro Carry II, which means it has an active firing pin block safety. There are two popular ways to achieve this, one being the Colt series 80 way that involves some linkages to the trigger which some claim they can feel. The second way, and this is the way the Pro is, is to use a simple plunger/connector that is operated by the grip safety instead of the trigger. It's really quite simple and I'll have some pics of it later.
Here's my current carry rig for the Kimber Pro Carry; a Kramer horsehide Vertical Scabbord. It's actually for a Commander (4-1/4" barrel length) but it works well - just a quarter of an inch long.
Looks like this on:
I figured it'd be wise to show you some pretty pics before I resume 'texting'.
Before I get into my long tale, let me say that I am surprised about the recoil. This is a light 1911 (28 oz) and I was shooting 230 gn range ammo (Blazer Al case) and the recoil, while not as mild as a 124 gn 9mm in my P250 (22 oz), it's not bad at all. I found follow up shots to be pretty quick.
I dropped Tangle and my wife off at home and headed to Shooter’s Depot. The first 50 rounds were absolutely miserable - I as literally all over the paper. Had a couple of mals. My shooting didn’t improve on the second 50 either and now I have a blister on my thumb where it contacts the thumb safety – anybody want a compact 1911! :mad: I tucked my tail an went home.
The trigger on the Ultra was great; the trigger on this Pro was odd. I noticed a distinct drag up to the break point and then it seemed to have a bit heavier break than the Ultra, but still not too bad. So I sat and pouted and sulked some and convinced myself it was just a bad day.
The next day off I go again to make things right. No better luck – I was steaming :mad: - make me an offer – got a good knife you would be willing to trade! So I go back home and pout, fuss, and grumble all night.
The next day, I decide to check some things. The trigger was breaking at about 4 lbs, but it was a ‘dirty’ break. My Gunsite 1911 has a smooth, crisp, clean break at 3.25 lbs. The first thing I did was to relieve some tension on the trigger return leaf spring. I re-measured the pull weight and it had not changed an ounce, which meant I really didn’t make any adjustment.
Next I disassembled the entire frame assembly and checked everything. I didn’t see anything amiss – very clean and smooth trigger bow channel – nothing that could account for the strange pre-break drag. I detail cleaned every part, and applied Gun Butter grease (it’s a very light grease) to everything that made any kind of moving contact with anything. I reassembled the gun and pulled the trigger – WOW - it was great! The drag was completely gone, and the trigger was lighter – now a clean, crisp, 3.25 lbs break (maybe just a bit less in fact)!
While I was straining my arm, patting myself on the back for such good work, I looked down and noticed a small piece of black plastic lying on the table. Hmmm, what’s this? It looked like ‘flashing’ from a plastic part. Where’d that come from? Well, that would sure explain some things if it came out of the gun. I can’t really say what it is or where it came from; it could have been totally unrelated, but it could also explain that ‘dirty’ trigger. OK - back to the range.
They say a picture is worth a thousand words, so here’s a couple of thousand – these are all at 7 yards:
The top target is faster fire, not necessarily rapid fire, but not slow fire either. The hits on the orange dot is slow fire.
Well, that was probably just luck; here's the second shot:
And the third shot:
and here's the conclusion of that first orange dot, a group on a second 2" diameter dot, and the group for a 1" diameter dot:
Multiple targets @ 7 yds by ron.0000, on Flickr
So in summary, I am not just pleased, but estatic! Now, if I just don't have any of the known 'Kimber' issues. :icon_neutral: